You can do all of those things with the workplace. It has been available since ISPF 4.2 in 1995. If you don't have it on your primary option panel, you can access it with ISPFWORK from any panel. I have been using it for the last 25 years and haven't had the need to use 3.4 since then.
The biggest difference between 11 and 3.4 is that, unless you have "Prefix Dsname Level" checked on 3.4, you don't need quotes around the DSNAME Level. With the Workplace, AFAIK, it always acts the way 3.4 does if you have "Prefix Dsname Level" selected. Also, the workplace always gives you enhanced member lists. The major thing that the workplace gives me is the ability to create arbitrary lists of DSNAME masks and have them all included. For example, if you create a list that includes 'foo.**.bar' 'bar.**' and issue DL against that list, you will get a data set list that includes all foo.**.bar data sets and all data sets beginning with bar. Having done that, I can issue SRCHFOR against them all, as just one example The list that I use the most has something like this: 'app1.release1.source 'app1.release1.maclib 'app1.release1.listing 'app1.release1.load 'app2.release2.source 'app2.release2.maclib 'app2.release2.listing 'app2.release2.load etc. for the products that I typically work with. The actual HLQ is not app1, etc, but something more descriptive of the product, so I couldn't use app*. You wouldn't have to reinvent anything, just learn something that is new to you In case you wondered, it has nothing to do with the ISPF Workstation Agent. I used to use that for z/OS <-> PC file transfer, but the WSA has been removed. It wasn't fast, but it was easy to use, at least for me. -- Tom Marchant On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 15:05:23 -0400, Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com> wrote: >Hm, not use 3.4? I still have to go there pretty often, for tasks such as > >- When cleaning up DATASET-class permissions in the security system, I need to >know what datasets actually exist >- When deleting old user IDs, I want to pass any important datasets belonging >to the dearly departed to his old boss >- When I'm hunting for production job that might do a task I'm interested in >(although I guess I would mostly use 3.14 for that) >- While investigating a parmfile or procfile or other system dataset for the >first time > >Dunno that I could live without 3.4. Well, I ~could~, but I'd basically have >to reïnvent it is all. > >Option 11; not sure that's in the menu my current client provided to me. >Obviously I haven't been using it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
