Thank you all so much.

It seems that there is a very good reason for leaving it as unloaded PDSes.  XMIT is good.

And so it shall remain!!!  (Well for the time being, anyway).

I will look into the other (non SMP) ways.  It works now. So that's fine.

Many thanks again,

Clem Clarke

Keith Gooding wrote:
Some sites do not have dfdss.

A common non-SMPE method is to use the XMIT command to convert each library 
into a sequential file, copy all of these XMIT datasets into a PDS and then run 
XMIT again to convert the PDS into a sequential file. To unpack you run RECEIVE 
to create the PDS of XMIT files then RECEIVE again for each member.

Or you could create a Portable Software Instance using an SMPE utility - this 
can be unpacked using z/OSMF (which runs an SMPE utility).

On 23 Aug 2023, at 07:52, Colin Paice <[email protected]> wrote:

Ive blogged
<https://colinpaice.blog/2021/01/08/how-to-backup-only-key-data-sets-on-z-os/>
about using DFDSS to backup datasets.
You may then want to use AMATERSE to terse it.

I have some JCL to restore an MQ package
//S1      EXEC PGM=AMATERSE,PARM=UNPACK
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT1 DD DISP=SHR,DSN=COLIN.MQ933.TRS
//SYSUT2 DD DSN=&&TEMP,SPACE=(CYL,(100,100)),DISP=(,PASS),
// VOL=SER=(C4USS2,C4USS1),UNIT=3390,STORCLAS=SCNOSMS

//S2        EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=0M
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//DD1      DD DISP=SHR,DSN=*.S1.SYSUT2
//SYSIN    DD *
   RESTORE -
   IMPORT -
   INDDNAME(DD1) -
   CANCELERROR -
   DATASET(INCLUDE(**)) -
   RENAMEU( -
  (**.SCSQANLC,COLIN.MQ930.SCSQANLC) -
  ...
  (**.SCSQTBLU,COLIN.MQ930.SCSQTBLU) -
  ) -
  SHARE -
  NULLMGMTCLAS -
  NULLSTORCLAS -
  CATALOG
//*

This is soooo  much easier than trying to use SMP/E

Colin

On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 at 07:30, Jon Perryman <[email protected]> wrote:

Since you don't have a good understanding of SMP/e, you might want to
consider DFDSS instead of SMP/e.
Creating a function is the easy part. SMP/e is a philosophy that requires
planning, setup and tools. Are you going to apply PTF's and apars, need
SMP/e zones, UCLIN, JCLIN, link to modules, object modules and much more.
If you have a problem with pre and coreqs, do you have the skills to
resolve it.

    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 04:12:03 AM PDT, Clem Clarke <
[email protected]> wrote:

I have some PDSes that need to be installed with SMP on Z/OS.

A couple are text files, one an object file and one a load module PDS.
They all have multiple members.

What would be the easiest way to create a files that can be installed
with SMP?

Many thanks,

Clem Clarke

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