Thanks to all who responded I worked with the systems programmer that's in 
charge of getting rid of PDSMAN, and we figured out how to do it with 
COPYGROUP, although it requires a few modifications we eventually got it to 
work.  EG COPYGROUP doesn't work with just an exclude statement so you have to 
have a select member=(*) blksize has to match the transmit file so 6160 instead 
of using blksize=0, so relatively minor things but still added steps to a 
process.

Regards,

John Benik



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PDSMAN does allow member name masking. So since you've gotten rid of PDSMAN, 
that is the issue.
IEBCOPY is working as designed.

Richard

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I wish I had some examples of when it worked, but I don't.   I can tell you it 
was under z/OS 2.4 and before we had any z16's, that it worked, we now are on 
2.5 and have z/16s.  We've had IBM tape for about 3 or 4 years and have not 
changed that JCL at all.  We didn't need to use copygroup previously, but we 
have gotten rid of PDSMAN that could be causing this, which I'm thinking is 
more then likely the case, as PDSMAN had a lot of hooks and probably would have 
allowed for wildcard characters.  It would be nice to get confirmation though.  
Here is the error that we get when we try to copy while excluding $READ, and 
FTPTOOL*.

                                         IEBCOPY MESSAGES AND CONTROL 
STATEMENTS IEB1135I IEBCOPY  FMID HDZ2250  SERVICE LEVEL UJ05520  DATED 
20210505 DFSMS 02.0
         L205 M5-RSU 2306
IEB1035I TSUAW6OT COPY     STEP     15:36:21 FRI 27 OCT 2023 PARM=''
  COPY OUTDD=PDSOUT,INDD=PDSIBM                                         00370022
   EXCLUDE MEMBER=(STATSORT,EXPIRE,$$CPYLIB,$$TAILOR,$READ*,FTPTOOL*)   00380022
IEB105I PARAMETER INVALID
IEB118I CONTROL STATEMENT ERROR
IEB115I END OF FILE ON SYSIN
IEB151I JOB HAS TERMINATED WITH ERROR(S) IEB147I END OF JOB - 8 WAS HIGHEST 
SEVERITY CODE

Regards,

John Benik

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Are you sure that it's the same input? The last I looked, the asterisk was only 
valid under a COPYGROUP.






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We recently uploaded the latest version of Tapetools.  That was a success, but 
when we ran our version of $$CPYLIB which is shown below we had issues.

//COPY    EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=*
//PDSIBM   DD DSN=&TOOLHLQ..IBMTOOLS.JCL,DISP=SHR
//PDSOUT   DD DSN=&USERHLQ..&SITE..&PRIMARY..JCL,DISP=SHR
//SYSIN    DD DUMMY
//*
//        PEND               *** END OF COPY PROC ***
//*
//STEP  EXEC  COPYLIB
//COPY.SYSIN   DD   *
  COPY OUTDD=PDSOUT,INDD=PDSIBM
   EXCLUDE MEMBER=(STATSORT,EXPIRE,$$CPYLIB,$$TAILOR,$READ*,FTPTOOL*)


IEBCOPY no longer seems to work with the $READ*, and FTPTOOL* we removed those 
and it was fine.  Does anybody know if there where changes to IEBCOPY that may 
prevent this, as it worked fine in 2022?  We are hoping to complete work on 
tape tools this week for all our systems, and realize that we may have to copy 
the $READ*, and FTPTOOL* over to our own library and delete afterwards but 
before $$TAILOR, but would like to avoid if possible as we are training some 
new people to take this over.


Regards,

John Benik

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