What is VMSES/E, chopped liver. I'd agree if you were talking free VM, but by the time z/VM came out SES was old hat.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Phil Smith III <li...@akphs.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 3:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM APAR Names This has been interesting. As a long-time VMer, I'd note that in VM-land, there is of course no SMP/E and things are a bit different. "APAR" and "PTF" kind of get used interchangeably, though there is recognition that they're not the same. But typically a VMer will say "I need APAR VM20779", not "I need the PTF for z/VM 7.3 that came from APAR VM20779", because it's basically same difference without SMP/E. The VM maintenance tools (VMSES/E) work fine but aren't as.shall we say theological? as SMP/E. (Extra credit for anyone who remembers VM20779, at least 40 years ago!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
