When I was at IBM, circa 1964, we had a keypunch department because ran
other businesses' work.  The keypunch ladies were infinitely faster, did the
verification step and always added the sequence numbers so any oddities were
generally on you. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of billogden
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 4:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Subject: Re: Kinda fun

I used 026, 029, and 129 machines. (And the 010 machines; remember those!)
Never bothered me, but I agree with the comment that their use (and punched
cards in general) encouraged me to be much more careful with my "on paper"
programming before starting to punch cards. Dunno how to translate this
"feeling" into the modern world where we start typing (on a graphics screen)
before we have finished deciding how the program "should" work. Times
certainly change.

Also as mentioned, I quickly found it was better to do my own keypunching!
I had lots of "hands on" on 1620s, 1401s, 1410s, and 7040s. (I used 7090s
and 7094s, but not "hands on"!) Being ancient and over the hill, I cannot
remember how I worked with our 1130s and 1800s (and 1500s, if you remember
those). I remember paper tape on one of the 1620s and I hated it!

Trying to make modern sense of this discussion (if possible) I can see where
starting to type before most of the thinking process is complete can lead to
a "liking" for interpreted languages --- where at least some of the error
messages occur at the typing stage --- instead of much later times that
occur long after the keypunching stage! In a sense, it often seems that some
of our "modern" techniques have eliminated inspecting compiler listings.
.......
Why sequence numbers? Like many of us, I used a carefully drawn diagonal
line (with a "magic marker") across the top of the card deck as a useful
restoration tool when I dropped the deck!

Bill Ogden  

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