That’s exactly what I said. Don’t ever be surprised when capitalism does what 
it does. When companies change rules to increase their profits. 


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On Tuesday, February 13, 2024, 8:19 PM, zMan 
<[email protected]> wrote:

But that's not what you said. Make up your mind, Bill!

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 8:17 PM Dave Beagle <
[email protected]> wrote:

> My point is quit relying on your employer to fund your retirement. I
> worked at Packard Electric decades ago. Most of the white collar folks
> there had their pensions transferred to the PBGC about 15-20 years ago.
> Which cut their benefits to some tiny fraction of what they were promised.
> They’ve been fighting to get what they deserve since then, unsuccessfully.
> I never trusted my employers ever to keep their promises. That served me
> well.
>
>
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>
> On Tuesday, February 13, 2024, 2:27 PM, Doug Fuerst <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> $22.5K if only you and $66K in you/employer is not enough?
>
> https://www.investopedia.com/retirement/401k-contribution-limits/
>
> Doug Fuerst
> [email protected]
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From "Wayne Bickerdike" <[email protected]>
> To [email protected]
> Date 2/13/2024 14:12:28 PM
> Subject Re: IBM Reopens Its Frozen Pension Plan, Saving the Company
> Millions
>
> >Looks like they are reverting to a Defined Benefit scheme. I never
> received
> >anything from IBM after my employment with them in the 70's.
> >
> >The 401K contribution limits are too low to ensure a comfortable
> >retirement.
> >
> >On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 5:38 AM zMan <
> >[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>  "The company has stopped making contributions to 401(k) accounts, and
> >>  instead gives workers cash credits in a new version of its old pension
> >>  plan."
> >>
> >>https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/09/business/ibm-pension-plan.html
> >>  (login required but surely will be elsewhere as well)
> >>
> >>  IBM plays more financial engineering games.
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