I try to never show my code to a manager. No good can come from it.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 4:25 PM Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote:

> You have to love it when a  manager tells you not to use a COBOL verb but
> instead to use COBOL..
>
> Fortunately, some <https://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3/#bosses> bosses are
> better than that.
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי
> נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר
>
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> of Farley, Peter <0000031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2024 4:19 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Learning one's tools
>
> +1 from me on continuing to learn the tools of our profession.  I use
> STRING and UNSTRING where they make sense, and I am still learning new
> things about their use every now and then.  Life-long learning is the only
> path to happiness and success.
>
> I got the same ridiculous pushback from a senior manager one time on the
> use of “sophisticated” SORT verbs like JOIN because “. . . no one but you
> will know how to fix it when it breaks . . . let someone do it in COBOL
> instead . . .”.
>
> Peter
>
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf
> Of Bob Bridges
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2024 12:38 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Learning one's tools
>
>
> To rant on a related subject, I once worked at a company that instituted
> code reviews; a new program would be gone over by a half-dozen coworkers to
> be sure it adhered to local standards.  This sort of thing is always
> painful to the coder, and nevertheless (I admit reluctantly) can have
> considerable value if done right.  One problem I had with it, though, is
> that the standards we created for ourselves admitted that there are times
> when exceptions should be made for special cases, and yet when those cases
> arose no exceptions were ever allowed; the team invariably flinched, leaned
> back in their seats and said "no, that's not according to our standards".
>
>
>
> One particular example always rankled:  Whenever someone felt the need to
> use a STRING or UNSTRING command (I should have said we were COBOL
> developers), the team always struck it down on the grounds that STRING and
> UNSTRING are unusual commands and some COBOL coders would be unfamiliar
> with it.  My contention here is that that's absolutely true, and it's the
> job of the COBOL coder to ~learn~ the STRING and UNSTRING statements, as
> tools of his profession.  I never persuaded anyone to that view, though.
>
>
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