I remember raining on someone's parade when they proudly told everyone that
they had 95% availability with a windows environment.   My comment "wow as
low as that" did not go down well.

15 years ago we had a CICS customer present to us.  He said their CICS had
been up for about 3 years with no down time.  Cue round of applause.  The
speaker said that's not the impressive bit.  During these 3 years we have
moved machine rooms twice, upgraded CICS, Z/OS, DB2 etc to new versions and
had a processor upgrade and still the CICS was available to the end users
100% of the time.

A long time ago, another CICS customer presented to us and they said "it
takes us 30 minutes to bring CICS up ready for production".   One of the
Linux/Windows guys in the room suggested they get a faster box.  There was
a stunned silence in the room for a few moments, till the speaker said.
"How long does it take you to open 4000 VSAM dataset, 10,000 DB2 tables,
connect to 5,000 CICS regions and check everything is working ? CICS comes
up in under 30 seconds".

Here endeth the lesson to the choir.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 at 13:08, Allan Staller <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> I agree LOL, 99.9% is so 20th century!
>
> Measured from where?   Internal Servers?
>
> Does this include the user perception?
> Outages are perceived from the end-user viewpoint, not the source.
> Components beyond AWS control can affect user perception.
>
> BTW, z/OS has been advertising 99.9999% availability in a sysplex for at
> least a couple of decades.
>
> I did like the automated problem detection/rollback though.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Aiming for only (!) four minutes of downtime a month!
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> Charles
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