Hi Dave,
You said: "....but I know how you like to show everyone your special intelligence ..." How do you know this? Have we ever met? I have seen may times where SMP jobs failed because the default space Allocation for SYSUTxs and SMPWRKxs was too small. My advice is practical, not pedantic. Regards, David
On 2024-06-16 00:42, Dave Beagle wrote:
The sample I’ve provided was an actual RSU install. The exclude was PTF’s that needed 
to be excluded for various reasons. Most likely PTF’s in error. As for defaults that 
don’t need coded, who cares? Defaults are nice to show for people who aren’t privy to 
them. The other SMPWRK & SYSUT were most likely generated by SMP/e and meaningless 
to his question but I know how you like to show everyone your special intelligence. 
This example was from 2017 when I was installing & maintaining DB2.


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On Sunday, June 16, 2024, 12:27 AM, Brian 
Westerman<[email protected]>  wrote:

I agree with everything except the last part about selecting the PTFs individually.  I do 
the same thing that the OP is doing.  My reason is that I can get the ones the 
"need" to be excluded from the applychk, but since he is doing a RSU, he likely 
wants everything that is not going to fail because of failed or missing prereqs.

Coding defaults never hurts though.

As far as getting through the 134 PTF's you pretty much have to look at them 
all and see if the action is going to need you to do something that you can't 
or don't want to do or will affect something poorly in your system.  It's 
difficult to tell you for sure without knowing anything about your site and if 
the required actions are going to present a problem for you.

If it helps, most of the actions are likely fairly benign things, but again, 
it's difficult to tell you without specific knowledge of the action items in 
question.

Brian

On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 23:00:55 -0400, David Spiegel<[email protected]>  
wrote:

Hi Dave,
- RETRY(YES) and JCLINREPORT are defaults. There is no need to code them.
- The SYSUTx ALLOCATIONS might be too small
- The SMPWRKx Allocations could benefit from half-track blocking (i.e.
BLKSIZE=27920).
- Instead of PTFS and EXCLUDE, why not SELECT the 134 PTFs?

Regards,
David

On 2024-06-14 18:30, Dave Beagle wrote:
Depends on the holds. DOC holds are easily bypassed. Others not entirely 
bypass-able.(although most are) Some of them you might have to perform a bind 
to finish the installation. Here is a sample.
//WJJCAPCK JOB (3200,TBL1),'APCK DB2 MAINT',CLASS=8,MSGCLASS=Q,
//         NOTIFY=&SYSUID,REGION=6M
/*JOBPARM SYSAFF=BCWD
//*
//S1       EXEC PGM=GIMSMP,
//         PARM='PROCESS=WAIT',
//         DYNAMNBR=120
//*
//* NOTE:      THIS JCL CREATED BY THE COMMAND GENERATION DIALOGS.
//*
//*            SMP ZONE-RELATED FILES ARE DYNAMICALLY ALLOCATED,
//*            THIS INCLUDES THE SMPPTS, SMPLOG, AND SMPTLIB DATA SETS,
//*            IF APPLICABLE.
//*
//* SMP FILES
//*
//SMPCSI   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SMPE.DB2V8R1.GLOBAL.CSI
//SMPOUT   DD SYSOUT=*
//SMPRPT   DD SYSOUT=*
//SMPLIST  DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//*
//*      UTILITY WORK DATA SETS IF REQUIRED FOR THE COMMAND
//*      FOLLOW HERE.
//*      INFORMATION FOR THE ALLOCATION OF THESE DATASETS IS
//*      SET USING OPTION 0 (SETTINGS) FROM THE SMP/E PRIMARY
//*      OPTION PANEL.
//*
//SYSUT1   DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(3120,(380,760))
//SYSUT2   DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(3120,(380,760))
//SYSUT3   DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(3120,(380,760))
//SYSUT4   DD UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(3120,(38,100))
//*
//*      SMP TEMPORARY WORK DATA SETS
//*
//SMPWRK1  DD UNIT=SYSDA,
//            SPACE=(3120,(364,380,500)),
//            DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120)
//SMPWRK2  DD UNIT=SYSDA,
//            SPACE=(3120,(364,380,500)),
//            DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120)
//SMPWRK3  DD UNIT=SYSDA,
//            SPACE=(3120,(364,380,500)),
//            DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120)
//SMPWRK4  DD UNIT=SYSDA,
//            SPACE=(3120,(364,380,500)),
//            DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120)
//SMPWRK6  DD UNIT=SYSDA,
//            SPACE=(3120,(364,380,500)),
//            DCB=(RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=3120)
//*
//*
//SMPCNTL  DD *
     SET    BOUNDARY (DSN8TRG)
                     .
     APPLY
            PTFS
            BYPASS   (
                      HOLDSYSTEM
                               (
                                 DOC
                                 DB2BIND
                                 IPL
                                 ACTION
                                 AO
                                 DEP
                                 DELETE
                               )
                     )
            JCLINREPORT
            CHECK
            EXCLUDE  (
                      UK16725
                      UK16766
                      UK17549
                      UK17614
                      UK17616
                      UK17619
                      UK17786
                      UK17972
                      UK18140
                      UK18173
                      UK18509
                      UK18859
                      UK19013
                      UK19209
                      UK19249
                      UK19337
                      UK19345
                      UK19528
                      UK19578
                      UK19603
                      UK20093
                      UK20531
                      UK20550
                      UK20557
                      UK20696
                      UK21117
                     )
            GROUPEXTEND
            RETRY(YES)
                   .

Dave

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On Friday, June 14, 2024, 9:19 AM, Steve 
Beaver<[email protected]>  wrote:

Upfront - I am not a DB2 SYSPROG, SYSADM, or Programmer



I have pulled in and applied DB2 V12 RSU2403.  That was the easy part.



There are 134 PTF's with HOLD ACTION and that is where  trouble is going to

Begin.



Does anyone have a Home Grown implementation document to help me get

Through these 134 PTF's with HOLD.



Thanks



Stev






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