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z/hardware can do this automatically, and has done so for decades.
None of the major IBM subsystems depend on local time for logging and recovery 
(since at least the late 80's

Almost universal, however is "application paranoia".
The fear that there is something somewhere dependent on the local timestamp and 
*might*
break something.

This has led to persistent 1 hour outage once/year for the fall time change 
where the local timestamp can possibly overlap, in many cases.




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EDWARD GOULD
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> >    ...   Now that we have a lot of K systems, etc, I d like to have the 
> > majority of lpars set spring forward/back automatically for all lpars that 
> > can,
> >
> All modern systems have automated this:
> <https://www.iana.org/time-zones>.
> The code is available; it's free; it would be a good Idea for IBM to
> embrace it.
>
> >    ...  and just manually control those that still have the application 
> > limitation(it uses local time, not UTC).
> >
> That's a design defect in such applications.  Contact the suppliers.
>
Gil,
We used to have an ancient version of CICS that did that. The issue was that it 
ran the ATMs and the online banking system. If it went down for more than X 
amount of time (I think it was 15 minutes or an hour?), we were fined by the 
fed 10K ($ ?). Everyone, including the management, did not want to touch it. We 
were stuck with this, yet we had to keep the OS current. How do you want to 
call IBM on an unsupported version of CICS?
Ed

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