Hi Lizette,

Oiyoiyoi .. I meant DSNUTILB and DSNUPROC .. so sorry:-((.

I sort of imagined that all the CICS and DB2 folk were here so didn't bother with CICS and DB2 groups. I do have a newsgroup list but it would have been interesting to see what other mainframe groups are useful except I couldn't read yours with Notepad or SPFPC60:-(.

Yesterday I got my first CICS transaction working on Dallas's z/OS CICSTS42. It's accesses a VSAM KSDS file (built via IDCAMS). My next transaction is similiar but will access a DB2 table. Via reading it seems there are a) and b) preparatory one time steps to perform:

a) create a stogroup
b) create a database within the stogroup
c) thereafter my software will add small tables to the database to be accessed by my CICS pgms.

Thus the questions about using DSNUTILB or DSNUPROC for at least a) and b) above and which is best? .. and hopefully c).

I have plunged in with both and failed miserably. My JCL knowledge used to be strong for batch prod jobstreams but dealing with these 'specialities' ten years later is a struggle. My baby start JCL is:

//AU1      JOB (CONRAD),'GH', etc
//* STOGROUP CREATE
//DSNUPROC EXEC PGM=DSNUPROC,REGION=0M
//STEPLIB  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=DSNA10.PROCLIB
//SYSIN    DD *
  CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP
  VOLUME VPWRKD
  VCAT   CHELCAT
//

.. delivering ..

IEW4007I FIND FOR MODULE DSNUPROC FAILED BECAUSE DIRECTORY ENTRY IS NOT VALID FOR A LOAD MODULE.
CSV003I REQUESTED MODULE DSNUPROC NOT FOUND
CSV028I ABEND806-04  JOBNAME=AU1       STEPNAME=DSNUPROC

.. checked IEW4007I but both the steplib and proc exist .. yuk.

Next, with the same JCL, will be
  CREATE DATABASE CHELBAS1
  STOGROUP CHELGRP
  CCSID EBCDIC

Thanks for the quick answer!
Graham
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On 26/05/2013 1:56 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote:
Graham,

I am a little confused.

Typically DFH is CICS functions, and a STOGROUP is either DB2 or DFSMS.

So what are you trying to do?  If you could post the complete Batch Job that
will help.

Lizette

PS.  Yes there is a DB2 newsgroup and a CICS newsgroup which already have
this in their archives.



-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Graham Hobbs
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC

Wisdom sought please! I have tried to build a stogroup via batch job.

   CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP
   VOLUME VPWRKD
   VCAT CHELCAT

Seems DFHUPROC and DFHUTILB are options. Is one more common than the other?
Is it that the first calls the second (amongst others)?
Cheers,
Graham Hobbs
P.S. Secretly am looking for JCL that bl..dy works:-):-[

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