You can have either 32 Gb/s FC/FICON cards which can negotiate down to 8
Gb/s, or 16 Gb/s cards that can negotiate down to 4 Gb/s.

NVME - I think not in this generation as flash cards go into drawers with
RAID adapters which IIRC connect to the DS8900 processors by PCI/E and to
the flash cards by SAS, serial-attached SCSI. I'm not convinced this is
desperately important as most (80% to 95% typical for z/OS data) I/Os will
be satisfied using cache memory.

By the way, the best convenient source of reference is the DS8900F
Architecture and Implementation redbook. The data sheet is a marketing
document, not a technical one.

On Sun, 8 Sept 2024 at 15:08, Peter <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Does IBM DS8910 has FICON32 and NVMe ?
>
> I was going through their fact sheet and I don't see it
>
> On Sun, 8 Sept 2024, 16:37 Nigel Morton, <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > IOPS means I/Os per second so it's a measure of the throughput of the
> > devices. In practice, with z/OS you won't generate anywhere near the
> > maximum IOPs for a modern all-flash storage device. IMHO response time
> is a
> > more useful measure for performance especially as IOPs figures will
> > probably come from synthetic benchmarks.
> >
> > Also consider how you'll migrate from an old storage system to a new one.
> > Copy services functions such as multi-target metro mirror are excellent
> but
> > will almost certainly require that the source and target vendor are the
> > same. You might also need to consider what type of FICON adapters can
> > coexist with your FICON switches and channels.
> >
> > On Sun, 8 Sept 2024 at 05:04, Peter <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > >
> > > I have seen a term called IOPS in the technical sheet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From the storage perspective what does IOPS do? How does that influence
> > on
> > > storage solution selection?
> > >
> > > On Thu, 5 Sept 2024, 16:03 Radoslaw Skorupka, <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Cache - the more the better. Obvious. However there are different
> ways
> > > > of use of DRAM as a cache.
> > > > Some vendors have cache mirrored. Others don't mirror READ cache.
> > > > Usually the same memory is used for other purposes, not only for
> > caching
> > > > READs and WRITEs. So, "1TB of cache" is not simply comparable between
> > > > vendors.
> > > >
> > > > Disk module. SSD or magnetic? Usually SSD nowadays. But which SSD?
> > There
> > > > are many flavours and capacities.
> > > > Usually smaller modules gives better overall performance. And better
> > > > flexibility. And there are faster and slower modules.
> > > >
> > > > Remote copy.
> > > > Do you want to perform PiT copy on secondary/slave?
> > > > Do you want asynchronous copy?
> > > > Do you want PPRC and FLASHCOPY command compatibility?
> > > > What QoS features of PiT and Remote Copy do you want?
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Radoslaw Skorupka
> > > > Lodz, Poland
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > W dniu 04.09.2024 o 20:27, Peter pisze:
> > > > > Thanks for the inputs
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently we are metro mirrored.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I believe I also need to look into their quality of support?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cache and modules? -  what exactly I need to be researching on
> this ?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 4 Sept 2024, 19:40 Radoslaw Skorupka, <
> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> W dniu 04.09.2024 o 10:52, Peter pisze:
> > > > >>> Hello,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I Must confess that I am not a Storage expert.  In our
> organization
> > > we
> > > > >> are
> > > > >>> working on procuring a new storage box solution. I have been
> asked
> > to
> > > > >>> study and give an opinion on which solution would be perfect for
> > our
> > > > >>> mainframe environment.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Could someone give me your advise based on your experience. When
> > > > >> selecting
> > > > >>> a new storage solution what are the important points that needs
> to
> > be
> > > > >>> looked into the vendors proposal ?
> > > > >> Generally speaking a DASD box is not just a bunch of disks. It is
> > DASD
> > > > >> space + performance + embedded software.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> DASD space - obvious
> > > > >>
> > > > >> performance - a little bit more complex. There is no single
> number,
> > > like
> > > > >> car velocity. Even cache size should be understood, because
> vendors
> > > have
> > > > >> different way of use of it. Two approaches: compare "guts" (cache,
> > > disk
> > > > >> modules, etc.) or compare benchmarks.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> embedded software - remote copy, point in time copy, some
> "obvious"
> > > > >> things like SuperPAV, etc. Unless you have specific requirements
> all
> > > > >> vendors apply. However their offering differ and it could be
> > > important.
> > > > >> And features like Safeguarded copy.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ...and zHyperlink. All vendors have FICON32 nowadays, and AFAIK
> all
> > do
> > > > >> have zHyperlink.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> HTH
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Radoslaw Skorupka
> > > > >> Lodz, Poland
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
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