Likewise. Thanks to Darren, as well as all of you who add to the tremendous value of this list.
Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 8:46 AM, Steve Thompson <[[email protected]](mailto:On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 8:46 AM, Steve Thompson <<a href=)> wrote: > I am very glad and thankful to have this list as other similar > lists are in the trash heap of history. And I do appreciate > Darren's time at this. > > Regards, > Steve Thompson > > On 10/7/2024 11:04 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> Darren is a volunteer, and we should be grateful for however much of his >> copious free time he is willing and able to devote to this list, instead of >> whining that it is not enough. >> >> -- >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 >> עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי >> נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר >> >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of >> willie bunter <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 9:23 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Non Mainframe Related Posts >> >> Caution: This email did not originate from George Mason’s mail system. Do >> not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know >> the content is safe. >> >> >> I think moderator Darrel should have nipped it in the bud when the first >> post was made. By his laissez-faire attitude this topic spiraled out of >> control.A stricter control on topic other than technical should be exacted >> by the dormant moderator. >> Amen. >> >> On Sunday, October 6, 2024 at 09:49:08 a.m. EDT, Joel Ewing >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well said! This list has never been a platform for free speech TO a >> mainframe audience, only relatively-free speech ON TOPICS directly >> relevant to IBM mainframers. I say relatively-free, because someone >> who persistently argues for a point after being directed to an >> authoritative source that demonstrates his point is wrong also risks >> being ostracized. >> >> At least one poster (GC 10/3, 14:49) should have been suspended >> immediately for his childish, baseless and off-topic insults. >> >> JC Ewing >> >> On 10/4/24 00:16, Brian Westerman wrote: >>> Just my own observation, and my comment is something I normally would not >>> offer, but maybe the forum needs a zero tolerance policy for political, >>> racial, social, and sexual content. This isn't "X" or Meta. I am all for >>> people joking around and sometimes going kind of off topic, but "off topic" >>> doesn't need to be into areas that are offensive to anyone on either side >>> of a political, social, racial or sexual issue. They simply have no use on >>> this particular type of forum. >>> >>> It should not take the moderator getting involved to stop a thread, any >>> member should be able to ask it to stop without coming under criticism for >>> being anti-anything if they point out that something is or seems to be >>> off-topic. Simply stating that it's not allowed to be a discussion, >>> shouldn't be considered that the person pointing it out is >>> anti-something|anything. They could even be wrong, but it should be enough >>> to at least stop and think about whether it's off topic and explain >>> yourself or the subject without having to resort to flaming the person. >>> >>> This forum, in case anyone may have forgotten, is IBM-MAIN, there are lots >>> of other forums to discus the other "stuff", and they are well suited and >>> actually quite a bit better suited for those other types of discussions. >>> >>> I think the time warnings and trying a reasonable approach has long past. >>> >>> Most people understand or should understand, the difference between what >>> IBM-MAIN's purpose is and what is off-topic from that purpose. A simple >>> warning from anyone that something is, or might be off topic should be >>> adequate to make the party's stop and think about it, without assuming the >>> person pointing it out is anti-"them". >>> >>> If it's pointed out, and the topic is not related to IBM-MAIN's purpose, >>> and the people don't stop the thread voluntarily, all those involved should >>> probably be sanctioned, and kicked off the forum for at least some period >>> of time. >>> >>> In the case of the current thread in question, whether someone is, or is >>> not, for, or against, a political, social or racial "side" is not even >>> relevant to the question of whether or not it's off topic. >>> >>> The problem with getting off topic int he first place is that even >>> reasonable people can get lost in the woods when it's allowed to progress >>> to the point where nothing discussed contributes to any IBM related >>> technical knowledge, questions or thoughts. >>> >>> That said, we are supposed to be here to discuss IBM operating system and >>> programming problems and solutions and discuss ways to do things. While >>> personal preferences sometimes and even oftentimes come into play, they >>> rarely (approaching never, ever) need to devolve into political or social, >>> or racial or sexual issues. >>> >>> I'm not normally a Kumbaya kind of guy. but com-on people, isn't this just >>> another example of taking things out of the realm of IBM-MAIN's purpose and >>> into places that we aren't really supposed to, and never should, (as a >>> group) enter??? >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> -- >> Joel C Ewing >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
