Hobby, student, whatever - you are in violation of the IBM licensing
agreement by running under Hercules.

If you want to experiment with z/OS 3.1 (or any other licensed IBM software)
check out https://www.ibm.com/cloud/wazi-as-a-service and click on the "Try
it now" button. Or for learning check out
https://www.ibm.com/z/resources/zxplore

Hope this helps 

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licensing agreement.


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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Marco Ulises Cruz Mecate
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2024 3:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: zOSMF takes too long to initialize

Thanks a lot for the feedback. I'm running the system in a PC with a Ryzen 5
5600x, so, seems I'm pretty limited in hardware capacity. Seems i will have
to upgrade to a better CPU model.

Regarding the license issue, I am running zOS as a hobby and without any
commercial purposes whatsoever, so I hope there will be no problem.

Thanks again and have a great day!

Best regards,
Marco Cruz
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De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> en nombre de
roscoe5 <[email protected]>
Enviado: lunes, 28 de octubre de 2024 06:29 a. m.
Para: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Asunto: Re: zOSMF takes too long to initialize

Agreed. I was observing this as part of a z/OS v3.1 update, and a hour after
the IPL, while everything else was checking out fine, I noticed z/OSMF was
still hogging all the CPU it could get. My experienced peers said that was
common, and this shop needed a bigger box and a zIIP.

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On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 12:19 AM, Brian Westerman
<[[email protected]](mailto:On Mon, Oct 28,
2024 at 12:19 AM, Brian Westerman <<a href=)> wrote:

> I actually reported this problem to IBM when one of my clients had a
z/13s, and was told that their testing was performed on a 400Mip box (with a
zIIP engine, and also without one), their response time was acceptable, but
my clients took about 20 minutes to initialize and about 45 minutes to get
to where you could log on, and then from that point it was slow, but usable
(barely). THe z13s had one CPU and was rated to 13MSU (80Mips).
>
> That client has since upgraded to a z14, (still one CPU but has 15MSU and
88Mips), which is not a big change, but they also purchased a zIIP, so now
it takes under a minute to get both parts of z/OSMF up, and performance it
quite good. SO it's not really the standard CPU that matters, it's the zIIP
which, even though the main CPU is only 88MIP, is full speed, so I imagine
that without a zIIP, you would have some issues getting it started.
>
> Have you maybe tried a faster CPU, maybe a I7 14700K or i9 14900K (or one
of the newly announced CPUs would perform better for you.
>
> Brian
>
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