I slightly misremembered Deniro's quote. It should have been "If there's any doubt, there's no doubt."Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: WILLIAM FAIRCHILD <[email protected]> Date: 11/25/24 1:28 PM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Logon to TSO+ISPF on multiple LPAR's at the same time? Re: to trust or not to trust?In one of his many crime boss movies, Robert D. Niro uttered this line of wise guy wisdom: "If there's no doubt, then there's doubt."Bill FairchildColumbia, South CarolinaUSAAwareness is the precursor to change.> On 11/22/2024 6:14 PM EST Don Leahy <[email protected]> wrote:> > > Cross contamination across various profle pools is a common occurrence at> our shop where the locally developed tools failed to use a distinct> APPLID. I was one of the offenders until I learned better.> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 18:06 Schmitt, Michael <[email protected]>> wrote:> > > Our system allows multiple logins with profile sharing, but I never do it.> > I don’t trust it. Even if every IBM application works, and even if every> > third-party vendor application works, I don’t trust that our home-grown> > applications would work. I think they’re making assumptions that the TSO id> > = job name = unique name at this time. For example, it is safe to delete> > and reallocate a data set userid.SOME.THING.> >> > I don’t even trust that the applications I wrote and maintain would work.> >> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf> > of Don Leahy <[email protected]>> > Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>> > Date: Friday, November 22, 2024 at 5:01 PM> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: Logon to TSO+ISPF on multiple LPAR's at the same time?> >> > Yes, and it’s not that difficult. You can either use ISPF profile sharing> > or use a separate ISPF profile data set on each LPAR. I have done it both> > ways.> >> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 16:09 Paul Gilmartin <> > [email protected]<mailto:> > [email protected]>> wrote:> >> > On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:18:36 -0500, David Spiegel wrote:> >> > >All? ... No, just the //ISPPROF which can be fixed by including the LPAR> > >name as part of the DSNAME. E.g. <userid>.ISPF.ISPPROF,<lpar-name>> > >> > Ouch! Profile changes on any LPAR would not be effective on other> > LPARs. Many (but not all) users would find this unacceptable. It is no> > better than assigning multiple User IDs.> >> > But <> > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fdocs%2Fen%2Fzos%2F3.1.0%3Ftopic%3Dlogons-duplicate&data=05%7C02%7Cmichael.schmitt%40dxc.com%7Cd3d3da1b33424f7e657208dd0b498967%7C93f33571550f43cfb09fcd331338d086%7C0%7C0%7C638679132662443719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=dL9Bbguv%2FbLtlf%2Fg0rd0LuraoUa4CY5BRqs0DQGg0cU%3D&reserved=0> > ><https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=logons-duplicate> says:> > ISPF profile sharing or changes to default ISPF data set names> > might be needed to avoid errors in ISPF with multiple logons.> > See z/OS ISPF Planning and Customizing for more details about> > configuring ISPF to support multiple logons.> >> > "profile sharing"> >> > But the referenced document is an abstract containing> > a circular reference. I'll submit a Feedback.> >> > --> > gil> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,> > send email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN> >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,> > send email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN> >> >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,> > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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