"Never!" (says the ICSF Architect).

In all seriousness, those messages look good. David, were those the "good" case 
or the "bad"?

If the bad, was ICSF up yet?

Eric Rossman
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ICSF Security Architect
z/OS Security
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ITschak Mugzach
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2025 2:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: GSK question

looks like an ICSF (CSF) issue.

ITschak Mugzach
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On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 9:24 PM Jousma, David < 
[email protected]> wrote:

> Look at the pre-IPL TCPIP STC output, and compare to current.
>
> It was the messages in and around here that were bad
>
> System SSL: SHA-1 crypto assist is available System SSL: SHA-224 
> crypto assist is available System SSL: SHA-256 crypto assist is 
> available System SSL: SHA-384 crypto assist is available System SSL: 
> SHA-512 crypto assist is available System SSL: DES crypto assist is 
> available System SSL: DES3 crypto assist is available System SSL: AES 
> 128-bit crypto assist is available System SSL: AES 256-bit crypto 
> assist is available System SSL: AES-GCM crypto assist is available 
> System SSL: Cryptographic accelerator is not available System SSL: 
> Cryptographic coprocessor is available System SSL: Public key hardware 
> support is available System SSL: Max RSA key sizes in hardware - 
> signature 4096, encryption 4096, verification 4096 System SSL: ECC 
> secure key support is available. Maximum key size 521 System SSL: ICSF 
> Secure key PKCS11 support is not available System SSL: ICSF FMID is 
> HCR77E0 EZZ0162I HOST NAME FOR TCPIP IS hmsystk2
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> Dave Jousma
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on 
> behalf of Phil Smith III <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, April 14, 2025 at 2:17 PM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: GSK question
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>
> Thanks. This might be the answer, though I may not be able to tell.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 
> Behalf Of Jousma, David
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> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2025 2:11 PM
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> To: [email protected]
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> Subject: Re: GSK question
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>
> AFAIK, there is no shutting off SYSTEM SSL.
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> Years ago, and a few generations of Crypto adapters ago, we IPL’d 
> before Crypto adapters were fully initialized (there is a time factor 
> when installing MCL’s), and System SSL was “broken” from a TCPIP perspective.
>  The fix was to recycle TCPIP, we elected to IPL, because the cycle of
> TCPIP was just about as invasive.    This caused us all kinds of problems
> and it took a bit to track down that TCPIP came up before crypto was 
> available.
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>
> I have no idea if this exposure still exists, but to this day, we 
> still wait for crypto adapters to be fully initialized before we IPL anything.
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>
> Dave Jousma
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> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on 
> behalf of Phil Smith III <[email protected]>
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> Date: Monday, April 14, 2025 at 1:55 PM
>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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> Subject: GSK question
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> Is there a way to turn off GSK (System SSL)? We have a customer who 
> had a problem where our STC suddenly wouldn't start: it would try to 
> connect (to a server off z/OS) and that would fail. Connectivity 
> SEEMED ok otherwise, and of course "nothing has changed". A gsktrace 
> produced nothing. After some back-and-forth, they reIPLed and now it's 
> fine. (Which I 50% wish they hadn't done, so we could get more info; 
> and am 50% glad they did, of course, since it fixed the problem!)
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> All I can think is that GSK was broken somehow. If there was a 
> GSKsomething STC I'd kill that and try, see if I got the same 
> symptoms, but there isn't. Is it just baked into TCP/IP? Any other 
> ideas about something I can kill that would break GSK? I can do 
> anything I want on our system and then reIPL if needed.
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> Thanks for any ideas.
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