It's not about users staying connected. Rather, it's the other kinds of
waits that happen in a running system. True, they're not likely to happen
in a dev environment these days, but if a job hangs for too long waiting on
a resource that will never come available in a production environment, that
would be an issue. In a production environment, that's usually set to 30
minutes or so.

On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 6:56 PM Phil Smith III <[email protected]> wrote:

> Because? I've stated repeatedly that it's a dev system and I'm currently
> the only user, but I'm baffled as to why anyone is hyper about users
> staying connected. Bits are cheap these days.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf
> Of Steve Beaver
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2025 7:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Disable user timeout via JWT?
>
> I hope the 2400 is on a sandbox
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> No one said I could type with one thumb
>
> > On May 18, 2025, at 18:23, Phil Smith III <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I think we might be on it now:
> > D PARMLIB
> > gets
> > RESPONSE=S0W1
> > IEE251I 17.21.37 PARMLIB DISPLAY 231
> >  PARMLIB DATA SETS SPECIFIED
> >  AT IPL
> >  ENTRY  FLAGS  VOLUME  DATA SET
> >    1      S    A3CFG1  USER.Z31A.PARMLIB
> >    2      S    A3CFG1  FEU.Z31A.PARMLIB
> >    3      S    A3SYS1  ADCD.Z31A.PARMLIB
> >    4      S    A3RES1  SYS1.PARMLIB
> >    5      S    VUSER2  VENDOR.PARMLIB
> >    6      S    VUSER1  SVTSC.PARMLIB
> >    7      S    VUSER1  LVL0.PARMLIB
> >
> > And in
> > ADCD.Z31A.PARMLIB(SMFPRM00)
> > and
> > USER.Z31A.PARMLIB(SMFPRM00)
> > I found
> > JWT(0400)
> > as Jay Maynard predicted!
> >
> > I changed both to JWT(2400). Short of reIPLing, is there a way to make
> this active? Since it's just me, I *can* reIPL, but I'd sorta rather
> not--there are a bunch of things that have to be started manually, so if
> there's a command it'd be easier.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> > Behalf Of Roger Lowe
> > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2025 7:15 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Disable user timeout via JWT?
> >
> > To find out PARMLIB concatenation order, you can issue -
> >
> > D PARMLIB command OR
> > SDSF and then option PARM and then on the command line type SRCH
> > SMFPRMxx (once you know what SMFPRMxx you are using by issuing the D
> > SMF,O or D IPLINFO,SMF command)
> >
> > As for the IEFUTL exit and whether it is in use, you can issue -
> >
> > D PROG,EXIT command
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, 18 May 2025 15:55:42 -0400, Phil Smith III <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I mean "the one that's last in the list as far as I know". I'm not sure
> how to check that hierarchy, though. There are four PARMLIBs, two of which
> have SMFPRMxx members: LVL0.PARMLIB and VENDOR.PARMLIB (this is a former
> IBM Dallas system). But I just checked and all the members have JWT(2400).
> So I guess this means it's the exit? How do I tell where the exit is loaded
> from? If you're thinking "This is scary that he knows so little" let me
> agree 100%, but at the moment I'm the only one who can spell "z/OS" here.
> Plus, as noted, it's a dev system, so there's nothing "real" on it anyway
> (even our source code doesn't live there).
> >>
> >> D SMF,O:
> >> RESPONSE=S0W1
> >> IEE967I 13.49.45 SMF PARAMETERS 222
> >>        MEMBER = SMFPRM00
> >>        NOWIC -- DEFAULT
> >>        NOHFTSINTVL -- DEFAULT
> >>        NOARECSIGN -- DEFAULT
> >>        NORECSIGN -- DEFAULT
> >>        SMFDLEXIT(USER3(IRRADU86)) -- DEFAULT
> >>        SMFDLEXIT(USER2(IRRADU00)) -- DEFAULT
> >>        SMFDPEXIT(USER3(IRRADU86)) -- DEFAULT
> >>        SMFDPEXIT(USER2(IRRADU00)) -- DEFAULT
> >>        EMPTYEXCPSEC(NOSUPPRESS) -- DEFAULT
> >>        NOPERMFIX -- DEFAULT
> >>        NOSMF30COUNT -- DEFAULT
> >>        MULCFUNC -- DEFAULT
> >>        DSPSIZMAX(2048M) -- DEFAULT
> >>        BUFUSEWARN(25) -- DEFAULT
> >>        BUFSIZMAX(0128M) -- DEFAULT
> >>        MEMLIMIT(00002G) -- DEFAULT
> >>        DDCONS(YES) -- DEFAULT
> >>        LASTDS(MSG) -- DEFAULT
> >>        NOBUFFS(MSG) -- DEFAULT
> >>        MAXEVENTINTRECS(00) -- DEFAULT
> >>        SYNCVAL(00) -- DEFAULT
> >>        INTVAL(30) -- DEFAULT
> >>        DUMPABND(RETRY) -- DEFAULT
> >>        SUBSYS(STC,NOTYPE(14:19,62:69,99)) -- SYS
> >>        SUBSYS(STC,NOINTERVAL) -- SYS
> >>        SUBSYS(STC,NODETAIL) -- SYS
> >>        SUBSYS(STC,EXITS(IEFUSO)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SUBSYS(STC,EXITS(IEFUJP)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SUBSYS(STC,EXITS(IEFU84)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SUBSYS(STC,EXITS(IEFU83)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SUBSYS(STC,EXITS(IEFU29)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SYS(NODETAIL) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SYS(NOINTERVAL) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SYS(EXITS(IEFU29)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SYS(EXITS(IEFUJI)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SYS(EXITS(IEFUSI)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SYS(EXITS(IEFACTRT)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SYS(EXITS(IEFU84)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SYS(EXITS(IEFU83)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        SYS(NOTYPE(14:19,62:69,99)) -- PARMLIB
> >>        AUTHSETSMF -- PARMLIB
> >>        LISTDSN -- PARMLIB
> >>        SID(S0W1) -- PARMLIB
> >>        JWT(0400) -- PARMLIB
> >>        STATUS(010000) -- PARMLIB
> >>        MAXDORM(3000) -- PARMLIB
> >>        REC(PERM) -- PARMLIB
> >>        NOPROMPT -- PARMLIB
> >>        DSNAME(SYS1.S0W1.MAN2) -- PARMLIB
> >>        DSNAME(SYS1.S0W1.MAN1) -- PARMLIB
> >>        ACTIVE -- PARMLIB
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> >> Behalf Of Jeremy Nicoll
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2025 11:23 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Disable user timeout via JWT?
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 18 May 2025, at 15:50, Phil Smith III wrote:
> >>> Thanks. Here's the top-most SMFPRMxx:
> >>
> >> When you say "topmost", what do you mean?
> >>
> >> Are you looking at the one specified by the appropriate (as used at the
> last IPL) IEASYSxx?
> >>
> >> Does the site override any of this by operator (or automation-
> >> issued) command?
> >>
> >> If you're able to issue (or have someone else issue) an operator
> >> command, does the
> >>
> >>  D SMF,O
> >>
> >> command (which I think lists options in effect) show anything useful?
> >>
> >> If there is an IEFUTL exit in use, what does its (site-supplied?) code
> actually do?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.
> >>
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