Try REGION=6M or 20M.  This should be small enough to get a dump.  Probably
looping somewhere by this time.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 11:56 PM Tony Harminc <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 at 18:09, Charles Mills <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > Storage is apparently being exhausted, despite REGION=0M. In the SYSUDUMP
> > I see allocation after allocation -- 13,000 lines or so -- of x'21000'
> > bytes in subpool 2. What IBM component uses subpool 2? (My code does not
> > use subpool 2 explicitly.)
> >
>
> Thoughts:
>
> If you're truly out of private storage I'd expect an IEA message for a
> failing GETMAIN or STORAGE OBTAIN. Does anything other than browsing the
> SYSUDUMP support the theory of exhausted storage? That is, exhausted but
> not (yet) to the point of a GETMAIN failing...
>
> Changing the SYSUDUMP to SYSMDUMP (with a suitable dump-shaped allocation)
> would nmake things easier to read and search. And you'd be able to see at
> least some of the trace table. But really you want an earlier dump - LE and
> whatever IDI... is (debugger?) are all gonna be in there ahead to mess
> things up.
>
> So if possible you probably want a SLIP, but if you're not actually getting
> a GETMAIN failure then that'll be harder. You could do a SLIP on any abend
> - yeah, it'll probably catch something you don't care about, but then maybe
> it'll be the real problem.
>
> I don't seem to have enough disk space for an SVC dump.
> >
>
> That's easily fixed, but an earlier transaction dump taken by LE is
> probably beter than a later SVC dump.
>
> >
> > Anyone ever see anything like this? Anyone have any clues to what the
> > problem is?
> >
>
> No. Subpool 2 is not something I remember bumping into. I don't think it's
> LE or any core MVS service - it's a user subpool (private and no privs
> required) so I'd guess it's a "user" program running in your address space.
> Again, that IDI...?
>
> Here are the messages I am seeing
> >
> > 16.52.47 JOB04842  +CEE3798I ATTEMPTING TO TAKE A DUMP FOR ABEND U4088 TO
> > DATA SET: xxxxxx.D167.T1652476.xxxxxxCR
> > 16.52.49 JOB04842  IKJ56245I DATA SET xxxxxx.D167.T1652476.xxxxxxCR NOT
> > ALLOCATED, NOT ENOUGH SPACE ON VOLUMES+
> > 16.52.49 JOB04842  IKJ56245I USE DELETE COMMAND TO DELETE UNUSED DATA
> > SETS
> > 16.52.50 JOB04842  IEA820I TRANSACTION DUMP REQUESTED BUT NOT TAKEN  814
> >
> >    814                     AUTOMATIC ALLOCATION OF DUMP DATA SET FAILED
> >
> > 16.52.50 JOB04842  +CEE3796I AN ATTEMPT TO DYNAMICALLY TAKE A DUMP WAS
> NOT
> > SUCCESSFUL.  815
> >    815              THE ERROR RETURN CODE WAS 00000008 AND THE REASON
> CODE
> > WAS 00000026.
> >
>
> I forget where, but you can force the allocation for a transaction dump to
> go somewhere else.
>
>
> > 16.52.50 JOB04842  +CEE0374C CONDITION=CEE3204S TOKEN=00030C84 59C3C5C5
> > 00000000  816
> >    816                       WHILE RUNNING PROGRAM CERTREPT
> >
> >    816                       AT THE TIME OF INTERRUPT
> >
> >    816                       PSW     078D0400 9A804D70
> >
> >    816                       GPR 0-3 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000008
> >
> >    816                       GPR 4-7 00791860 1B41BB28 1A804D70 9A81EAA6
> >
> >    816                       GPR 8-B 9A81EA6C 1B424800 1B417D70 86087018
> >
> >    816                       GPR C-F 1A9181D8 1B17C840 00000002 00000002
> >
> >
>
> The above is probably useless. LE is notorious for clobbering the useful
> info before it "summarizes" what's left for you.
>
>
> > 16.52.50 JOB04842  +IDI0012S Abend 0000C9 occurred in abend exit
> > processing,
> > 16.52.50 JOB04842  +IDI0013S R15=0 PSW=078D0000 1A72B7D6 DCAPSUB=1A713A80
> >
> > 16.52.50 JOB04842  IEA043I SVC DUMP REACHED MAXSPACE LIMIT -
> > MAXSPACE=00000500 MEG
> > 16.52.50 JOB04842  IEA794I SVC DUMP HAS CAPTURED:  821
> >
> >    821             DUMPID=001 REQUESTED BY JOB (xxxxxxCR)
> >
> >    821             DUMP TITLE=IDIDA ESTAE exit entered.
> > JOB04842 SDWA
> >    821                        =7F510B58
> >
> >    821             INSUFFICIENT RESOURCES FOR OPTIMIZE=YES PROCESSING
> >
>
>
> I keep harping on this because I don't know what IDI... is. But it's a
> likely culprit, in my view.
>
> >
> > 16.52.50 JOB04842  $HASP375 xxxxxxCR ESTIMATED  LINES EXCEEDED
> > etc. for 4 million lines of SYSUDUMP
> >
> >
>
> Again, SYSMDUMP.
>
> Keep us posted.
>
> Tony H.
>
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