I was trying to figure that out.  I really don't want to use sclm. I didn't 
know about sclm until today. How can I turn it off?  I ask ibm but no answer.

Our theory is that we order the z/os 3.1 and connect direct 6.4 was order it 
came it with sclm.  We are guessing.

So, we are going to turn off  in the ispf
SCLM_WARNING_LEVEL                        = NONE

Do you recommend this ?

Thanks

Shelia Chalk
Mainframe System Programmer
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Hi Shelia,
My understanding is that even though SCLM is supplied with ISPF, it is not 
supported.

Regards,
David

On 2025-07-18 14:31, Chalk, Shelia wrote:
> David,
> These people are trying install a new release of connect direct on z/os 3.1 
> lpar and we are getting the sclm message.
> I am trying to figure out what you meant by Why are you using unsupported 
> software for Source Code Management?
>
> Can you help me understand?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Shelia Chalk
> Mainframe System Programmer
> [email protected]
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> Hi Shelia,
> That is the difference between your 2.4 and 3.1 system.
> Why are you using unsupported software for Source Code Management?
>
> Regards,
> David
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> On 2025-07-18 13:25, Chalk, Shelia wrote:
>> No
>>
>>
>> Shelia Chalk
>> Mainframe System Programmer
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>> Hi Shelia,
>> Is there a SCLM Project involving Connect:Direct on 2.4?
>>
>> Regards,
>> David
>>
>> On 2025-07-18 13:17, Chalk, Shelia wrote:
>>> Yes
>>>
>>>
>>> Shelia Chalk
>>> Mainframe System Programmer
>>> [email protected]
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>>> Hi Shelia,
>>> Is there a z/OS 3.1 SCLM Project involving DGA (Connect:Direct)?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> David
>>>
>>> On 2025-07-18 13:02, Chalk, Shelia wrote:
>>>> Thanks for reaching out.  But I have z/os 2.4 lpar and when create a new 
>>>> dataset I don't get the sclm message.
>>>> Then I have a z/os 3.1 lpar and when we create a new dataset, I get the 
>>>> sclm message.
>>>>
>>>> I can't figure out where the difference is?  I have looked at the 
>>>> SCLM_WARNING_LEVEL default is warn in all z/os 2.4,2.5 and 3.1. I can 
>>>> update the ispcfigu to turn warn to none.
>>>> But it is not that way on z/os 2.4.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully, this makes sense.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help again.
>>>>
>>>> Shelia Chalk
>>>> Mainframe System Programmer
>>>> [email protected]
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>>>> Hi Shelia,
>>>> I think that you can change this by modifying (or deleting) the ISPF Stats 
>>>> for the member (or zapping Byte 3).
>>>> Please see:
>>>> ISPF statistics entry in a PDS directory
>>>>
>>>> z/OS ISPF Dialog Developer's Guide and Reference
>>>> SC19-3619-00
>>>>
>>>> A valid ISPF directory can consist of fifteen halfwords of user data with 
>>>> bytes 28-30 blank, or twenty half words of user data with bit 3 of byte 3 
>>>> set on. Shown here is the format of the information that ISPF writes to 
>>>> the PDS directory to maintain statistics for a member. If you suspect the 
>>>> statistics data has been corrupted, you can compare the existing entry 
>>>> against these formats to help in problem determination.
>>>>
>>>> *Byte*
>>>>         *Description and Format*
>>>> 1
>>>>         Version number, in hexadecimal format. Value is 
>>>> betweenX'01'andX'99'.
>>>> 2
>>>>         Modification level, in hexadecimal format. Value is
>>>>         betweenX'00'andX'99'.
>>>> 3
>>>>         Flags:
>>>>
>>>>         Bit 1
>>>>             SCLM indicator. SCLM uses this to determine whether the member
>>>>             and any related SCLM information are still in sync.
>>>>
>>>>               * ON means the member was last edited by SCLM, the Software
>>>>                 Configuration and Library Manager.
>>>>               * OFF means the member was somehow processed outside SCLM.
>>>>
>>>> One way to do this is to start 3.5 and change the SCLM setting to Non-SCLM.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-07-18 11:34, Chalk, Shelia wrote:
>>>>> On Z/OS 3.1 I am getting message on some members in a dataset that I 
>>>>> trying to edit.
>>>>> Happens on some datasets and not others.
>>>>>
>>>>> EDIT DGA.SDGACNTL(DGACBACK) - 01.04                                       
>>>>>                              SCLM warning
>>>>> Command ===> Scroll ===> PAGE
>>>>> ****** ***************************** Top of Data
>>>>> *********************** ==MSG> -CAUTION- Saving this member will
>>>>> invalidate the SCLM accounting ==MSG> information. Refer to the edit 
>>>>> tutorial for further details.
>>>>> ==MSG> -CAUTION- Profile changed to CAPS OFF (from CAPS ON)
>>>>> because data ==MSG> contains lower case characters.
>>>>> ==MSG> -Warning- The UNDO command is not available until you
>>>>> change ==MSG> your edit profile using the command RECOVERY ON.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me how to turn this off or how to fix this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Shelia Chalk
>>>>> Mainframe System Programmer
>>>>> [email protected]
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