Knowing object code doesn't give you the names and comments for the instruction 
you're looking at.

The last I looked, TEST didn't have an XMEM mode. Clunky support is better than 
none.

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For assembler I still use TEST mostly


The fact that source doesn’t exist not that big of a deal if you know assembler 
you know object code

I use 2 tso sessions 1 for source 1 for test

I have had issues debugging with xdc in xmem state

Though in problem state there doesn’t seem to be any issues


Thanks

> On Nov 9, 2025, at 10:14 AM, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I don't know what's out there, but certainly the IBM Debug Facility and the 
> debug tool in the HLASM Toolkit are more awkward.
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> We are looking into acquiring an assembler debugging tool.  Nearly two
> decades ago I used the z/XDC tool at an earlier employer.  Is this tool
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