What about them?
Seriously: it is good idea to communicate, not to write words. Excessive brevity or riddles does not help the communication.


Yes, off-site backups are being done nowadays.
How?
At least two ways:
1. Remote VTS and replication. Available for all vendors solutions.
2. "Tapes in a suitcase". Available in IBM VTS, I'm not aware of any other vendor. In this case it is possible to export physical tapes, move them away and insert into other VTS, then "unpack".

Both solutions can be used in parallel, however IMHO the first one is much more popular.

BTW: Number 3: DFSMShsm and tape duplexing. It is possible to write backups to two tapes. Both FICON-attached. In that case the distance is somehow limited, even if DWDM is used (performance). Some special features of the switch would help. However VTS replication provide better features.

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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland



W dniu 09.11.2025 o 16:15, Seymour J Metz pisze:
Off-site backups?


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Well, I'm simply too young to use reels. I started with OS/390, RMM and
cartridges. Manually operated. The only problem I could met was wrong
sticker (physical label) on the cart. :-)

However I use to teach the tapes and RMM, so I describe problems which
are gone thank to RMM, labels, etc.

BTW: nowadays any non-virtual tape is becoming as ancient as
non-emulated ECKD disk drive.
(disclaimer: tape drives at VT backend does not count)

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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland


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