My example was that PTF2 modified PTF1, but a customer has not installed
PTF1 and does not want to.

On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 5:35 PM Jon Perryman <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 09:06:49 -0600, Mike Schwab <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm wanting to learn the possible sequence of PTFs.
>
> The sequence of a PTF is defined by the creator of that PTF using PRE,
> REQ, SUP & more to create PTF, APAR & FMID relationships. While a PTF will
> always have relationships, PTF 1 & PTF 2 may not be related and the install
> sequence can be random. If you're going to create a PTF, please see the
> SMP/e doc but don't make too complicated otherwise you may be forced to
> UCLIN, SUP or ??? to fix the CSI.
>
> PRE = prerequisite PTFs. SMP/e must install PRE before installing this
> PTF.
>
> A PTF contains various components (++MOD, ++PANEL, ++MAC, ...). When you
> start changing a source, that source is reserved for you until you complete
> the PTF. The original source had a PTF id and that PTF ID is the PRE. Your
> PTF becomes the PRE for the next person who modifies that source.
>
> REQ = corequisite PTFs. SMP/e must install these PTFs but the sequence is
> not important.
>
> The current version of an element is needed for this PTF but does not need
> to be modified.
>
> SUP = supersedes PTFs. The PTF completely replaces all changes in all the
> superseded PTFs.
>
> Most often seen with APARs. An APAR is a temporary fix for a problem that
> only a few customers will have installed. SMP/e ignores if the APAR was not
> installed.
>
> >Normal updates would be
> >Base + PTF1 (without install) + PTF2 gives good result.
>
> This depends upon the relationship that has been defined in PTF2. A PRE or
> REQ of PTF1 will force the install of PTF1. A SUP of PTF1 will bypass
> installing PTF1 if it has not been previously installed.
>
> >Site with base finds out and wants to avoid PTF1 and install PTF2.
> >But PTF2 can't install without PTF1?
>
> Depends upon the relationships defined in PTF2
>
> >Creating PTF3 with 1 and 2 for base won't install on Base + PTF1?
>
> PTF3 would SUP PTF1 & PTF2 causing SMP/e to ignore the state of PTF1.
>
> Each PTF is designed to achieve a specific outcome. The most common is a
> PTF that has PRE for each element in the PTF and SUP for the APAR (even
> when not used).
>
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