I'll bite. '[DF]SMS compressed files super-block and write full tracks of 
data'? What file type, accessible through any standard z/OS access method, can 
use 'full track super-blocks'? Please explain. 

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Not quite correct.  SMS compressed files super-block and write full tracks of 
data.  BLKSIZE becomes logical (i.e. the buffer size of data used between the 
applcation and the SAM access method.

See SMF14CIS in the 14/15 SMF record for the actual physical size on the track.

Michael

At 08:19 PM 6/29/2026, Michael Watkins wrote:
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64Yes, 56664 bytes per track on a 3390, 
>but the maximum z/OS BLKSIZE is 32,760 bytes and only one block will 
>fit on a track.
>
>To maximize the amount of data on a track, half-track blocking is 
>typically used. There is a 668-byte inter-record gap on a native 3390 
>(platters on a spindle), which has been replicated on RAIDed FBA 
>devices in modern DASD architecture. This means there is a maximum 
>half-track BLKSIZE of 27998 bytes since 668+(2x27998)=56664.
>
>For a data set with 80-byte records, this means half-track blocking 
>means a 27920-byte BLKSIZE since 349 x 80 = 27920 and there isn't room 
>in
>27998 for the 350th 80-byte record.
>
>Also keep in mind that z/OS will append 32 bytes onto each block when 
>DSNTYPE=EXTENDED is specified, meaning less space for data records is 
>available.
>
>
>
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>I keep on seeing from AI 56,664 bytes per tack for 3390 pack how is 
>that determined
>
>
>Joe Reichman
>
>On Mon, Jun 29, 2026 at 8:58âEUR¯PM Attila Fogarasi < 
>[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The net bytes (i.e. longest record you can write to that track) 
> > varies by access method as there is overhead (control bytes).  
> > TRKCALC is provided to compute the largest record which can fit on a 
> > track (using EXCP), see
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> > Unless you are using EXCP the hardware track capacity is irrelevant,
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> > varies by BLKSIZE).
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 10:35âEUR¯AM Joseph Reichman < 
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Would anyone know how to get the net bytes per track for a 3390
> > >
> > H](tm)H(tm)Y[^\Ú[(tm)È]@pe ddname,buffer,devtab
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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