Skip, thanks for pointing that out.  I read the original email as FTP plural, 
as in FTP's, vs FTPS, or FTPSecure.

_________________________________________________________________
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
[email protected]
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Skip Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Using FTPS with IBM for ShopzSeries and SMP/E through a Firewall???

FTPS is an issue separate from 'getting through a firewall' to exchange data 
with IBM. We've performed data exchange with IBM and other vendors for years 
*without* FTPS, i.e. not using TLS security, which requires additional commands 
in the FTP stream. In our case we use an appliance to 'punch through' the 
firewall, which introduces other issues. 

FTPS is barreling down us whether we like it or not because later this year 
(October?) IBM will require it for the first time. If you are using only 
firewall rule manipulation to get there, you're probably OK using (or switching 
to) FTPS. 

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
[email protected]



From:   "Jousma, David" <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected], 
Date:   06/26/2013 07:14 AM
Subject:        Re: Using FTPS with IBM for ShopzSeries and SMP/E through 
a Firewall???
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



Works great.   Do it all the time for sending dumps, etc.  If you are 
going to get that setup, then you might as well start using SMPE RECEIVE 
ORDER, then besides FTP access through the firewall, you will also need 
HTTPS access.

If the firewall people are going to require specific destinations to be 
coded, the I would include at least for IBM:

General FTP access:
testcase.boulder.ibm.com
ftp.emea.ibm.com

Needed for SMPE receive order: 
FTP protocol:  deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com
HTTPS protocol: url="
https://eccgw01.boulder.ibm.com/services/projects/ecc/ws/"; 
                                     url="
https://eccgw02.rochester.ibm.com/services/projects/ecc/ws/";

I did not try a receive order from the Rochester address, so there could 
be additional FTP needed to support that one.

You may have other software vendors you deal with, so I would get those 
setup at the same time.
_________________________________________________________________
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
[email protected]
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
p 616.653.8429
f 616.653.2717


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Mark Regan
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Using FTPS with IBM for ShopzSeries and SMP/E through a 
Firewall???

Cross Posted to IBMTCP-L too.


We've just started the process of working with our Firewall team to allow 
us to use FTPS with IBM, i.e. to testcase.boulder.ibm.com. For anyone who 
has gone through the set up, I would appreciate hearing how things have 
worked out and what kind of gotchas to be aware of.


Thanks,

Mark Regan


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