I looked at all the categories and saw zero sales people, zero vice presidents, 
and zero high level people in any category. 



Sobering, indeed. 

Bill Fairchild 
Franklin, TN 

“Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder 
acceptable, and to give the appearance of solidity to pure wind.” [George 
Orwell] 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Miller" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:34:43 AM 
Subject: Re: Dice article on IBM layoffs 

In the mentioned article 
<http://news.dice.com/2013/06/14/delving-into-ibms-layoff-numbers/ 
 > "Scott M." replied:"I worked for IBM for almost eight years, and I   
left because they no longer recognized the value of their experienced   
technical people." 
Very early in my IBM employment (IIRC) I wound up in an IBM class on   
project management wherein they strongly emphasized that their   
research showed that the best ROI on technical projects was achieved   
by using the most experienced (albeit expensive) technical leaders. 
We have in years since moved into a school of management group-think   
that worships at the feet of Ayn Rand and who cannot conceive of any   
kind of management decision that does not minimize labor rate costs.   
It appears that the mentality has even gone so far as to incorporate   
the idea that managers should get rid of experienced (expensive)   
workers, claiming that they didn't have the skills needed for the new   
technology (think "cloud"), then hire PFCSK's fresh out of CC's or   
ITTTech or from India which they can get for a much lower salary. Now   
they are saying they need more 1B visas because they can't find   
qualified IT people. What about the tens of thousands laid off in the   
last year of two from Cisco and HP? Have they all found jobs? Why   
don't companies feel any moral obligation to the people they are   
discarding to provide them or even help them get the skills management   
claims are lacking? 
I know the old excuse that management is legally bound to protect   
their stockholders' equity, but there are quite successful companies   
that emphasize employee training, compensation, and job satisfaction. 
(Costco and Discount Tires come to mind. - Their CEO's don't beat   
their chest and say "I built this.", rather they say "our employees   
did this.".) 
After all, "General" Sarnoff didn't single-handedly win WWII - it took   
Rosie the Riveter and Alan Turing and many thousands of GIJoes to do   
the job. 

Dale Miller 

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