Thank you everyone for the inputs . We would be doing this for all program products and most of them are indirectly catalogued using &SYSR1 .
Answers for some of Lizette's questions : 1) What files are allocated and which are not Ans : I haven't checked all of them yet . Will let you know that once i'm done 2) Can they be moved without an IPL, or would an IPL be required ? Ans : Our customer has an IPL window every week . so , we will be doing this with an IPL 3) What tools are available to move the file Ans :We would be using ADRDSSU to move the files 4) Any hidden issues - users that have jcl that might not be relying on the normal catalog process.? Ans :Thats a good point . I'am yet to find that out 5) Any files in APF list, Linklst, in LLA Ans : Yes . There are . Thanks a ton ! Baby On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Lizette Koehler <[email protected]>wrote: > No you are correct, z/OS V1.11 does not allow VSAM to be indirectly > cataloged. However, since it was stated 3rd party products needed to be > moved off the sysres, I wanted to just expand the thought because there > might be cataloged VSAM files on the sysres as well as the indirect > catalog. > > z/OS V1.13 allows the indirect cataloging of VSAM. > > My other thought is if the symbolic used or the indirect catalog is unique > for the Program products, then you could just change it to a more permanent > volser in IEASYMxx and then just copy the files to the new volume and IPL. > No need to DEL/DEF the definition. > > Unfortunately, not knowing the environment, there can only be assumptions > made as to how best to do this. The questions that need to be answered are > > 1) What files are allocated and which are not > 2) Can they be moved without an IPL, or would an IPL be required > 3) What tools are available to move the files > 4) Any hidden issues - users that have jcl that might not be relying on the > normal catalog process. > 5) Any files in APF list, Linklst, in LLA? > > > > Thank you for helping me clarify my statements. > > > Lizette > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Roger Steyn > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 4:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: List out all Indirect catalogued datasets > > Baby , > > I thought you are on z/os 1.11 . If that's the case , i dont think you can > do indirect cataloging on VSAM datasets . > > Lizette , please correct me if am wrong . > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lizette Koehler <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 4:00 AM > Subject: Re: List out all Indirect catalogued datasets > > > Then I would probably write a REXX to do a LISTC ENT('nameof file') VOL > Then check to see if it was indirect > If it was, then I would write out the IDCAMS statements to change the > volser > to the one you want. > > Note, if the file is allocated, then it will not be able to be re-assigned > Also, if you have files other than NONVSAM, you will need to take other > actions. Some program products have OMVS files or VSAM files, so check > carefully. > > > > > Lizette > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of baby eklavya > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: List out all Indirect catalogued datasets > > We have our program products currently on the respack and they are > indirectly catalogued .As a part of the OS upgrade , we are trying to > separate them from the respack and put them on a new volume ..Then have the > new volume hard coded in the catalog using DEF NVSAM . > > > > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Lizette Koehler > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Can you explain what you are looking to do with the information? > > > > A LISTC command will list the information but you need to parse it to > > determine what is indirect. > > > > Lizette > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of baby eklavya > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:45 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: List out all Indirect catalogued datasets > > > > Hello , > > > > Is there a way to list out all the indirect catalogued datasets from a > > z/os > > 1.11 system ? > > > > Regards, > > Baby > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
