Sled,

Yep exactly

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD

'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'


> On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:52 PM, Aled Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Digression. In my then neighborhood in London (UK), I was the only one who 
> bought Betamax, the quality was so much better than VHS as Gil said (but I 
> couldn't get too many movies!). It also had the advantage that my house was 
> one of the few that was not broken into and have their VCR stolen!
> 
> Back on topic. SNA/SDLC - in my view, as robust as z/OS today in terms of 
> security etc. As Jon said, TCP won, but did we get 'the best'? I doubt it. 
> ALH
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Gilmartin <[email protected]>
> To: IBM-MAIN <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, 9 Nov 2013 13:12
> Subject: SNA vs TCP/IP (was: z/OS is antique ...)
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 11:49:40 -0800, Jon Perryman  wrote:
>> 
>> ... sad that he's bringing others to the dark side.
>>   ...
>> * z/OS: SNA existed long before TCP/IP was available. SNA was a robust,
> reliable and secure communications methodology. Once TCP was became 
> available, 
> we had the same situation as Betamax versus VHS. TCP won.
> There's always a reason.  Rarely is it an analogue of Gresham's Law,
> to which one partisan attributed the triumph of UNIX over VMS ("Bad
> software drives out good!")  Betamax succumbed to the greater capacity
> of VHS cartridges; a decisive advantage in the eyes of consumers at a
> tipping point in time despite the higher quality of Beta in professionals'
> view.  For many years thereafter I saw Beta only in the kits of TV news
> reporters on location.  I think VHS had caught up in quality and Beta
> in capacity, but both camps has too much capital investment to switch.
> 
> So, why TCP/IP over SNA?
> 
> o Price?
> 
> o Openness of standards and implementations (price, again)?
> 
> o Institutional bias against a perceived single-vendor solution
>  (openness, again)?
> 
> o Structured name space (thereby larger and more easily
>  partitioned/distributed)?
> 
> o DNS (name space, again)?
> 
> Imagine an alterate universe without TCP/IP but an Internet
> very simlar to ours; Google; Facebook; Skype; iTunes;
> NetFlix; and all; all running (FSVO) smoothly on SNA.  What
> modifications or extensions had to be made to SNA to
> accommodate this?
> 
> -- gil
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