Mark:

I agree with Ed.  And, make sure they have done this before and preferably, 
have an automated solution that is proven in the marketplace.  My partner and I 
are about to embark on another such project after the first of the year.

Regards,

Mitch McCluhan,
Legacy Modernization Consultant
www.lcmg.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Gould <[email protected]>
To: IBM-MAIN <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Dec 19, 2013 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: CA Top secret to RACF conversion


Mark:
I do not care for consultants in general.
ut when you have a project such as conversion like this I will say  
his.
IRE a Good consultant it is well worth the time and the money.
Ed
On Dec 19, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Mark Zelden wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:03:09 -0600, [email protected] wrote:

> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245677.pdf
>
> There is also an IBM Tool, which you must license that can help  
> with the
> migration.  There are also Technical Services which can be  
> contracted to
> help, if that is of interest.
>
>

 On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:47:56 +0000, Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/OCIO/ 
 ITSO) (CTR) <[email protected]> wrote:

> We did this a few years ago and I ended up writing a great deal of  
> REXX code to read in Top Secret reports and then create the  
> appropriate RACF commands.  It was not an overly painful  
> conversion, but we did spend a couple of months testing out the  
> process on our test system.     I don't have the REXX code any  
> more due to our mainframe getting shut down about 18 months ago,  
> but the REXX code was not that hard.    Just test - A LOT.
>

 I don't often say "hire a consultant",  but this is one of the few  
 cases I do recommend at least
 looking at some of the companies that offer these services.    They  
 have the experience in
 doing these conversions and hopefully know about caveats or  
 situations you may have
 not even thought of.  They also have the tool sets like the ones  
 Todd mentioned above they
 have developed from an array of clients (not just one).    Weigh  
 the cost of developing
 the tools yourself and the risk of "missing something" or extra  
 time in testing etc. against
 whatever the consulting company wants to charge you.   It's also a  
 good opportunity to
 create your RACF DB with some standards and perhaps get rid of  
 years of shoe horning
 in profiles / rules to "make things work".   This takes more effort  
 than just listing profiles
 and creating equivalent RACF commands.

 Regards,

 Mark
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 Regards,

 Mark
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