[email protected] (Joel C. Ewing) writes:
> The sentence where "VMS" appears has a subject of "computer firms"
> (plural), so it is possible the intended reference was  to non-IBM
> software such as VAX/VMS rather than a typo.  Since COBOL was supplied
> by multiple manufacturers, only two of the four items listed (CICS, DB2)
> are with certainty a reference to IBM-only products.

I've periodically mentioned that in the wake of demise of FS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#futuresys

the head of POK convinced corporate to kill the VM370 product, shutdown
the development group and transfer all the people to POK (or otherwise
they wouldn't be able to make the mvs/xa ship schedule). The plan was
not to tell the development group people until the very last minute in
order to minimize the number that might escape ... however the
information leak. A resulting joke was that head of POK was one of the
biggest contributors to VAX/VMS (people escaping to work at DEC in the
very early days of VMS). Endicott did manage to save the vm370 product
mission ... but had to reconstitute a development group from scratch.

reference to Bob Bemer helped create COBOL and coined the words
COBOL and CODASYL
http://www.computerhope.com/people/bob_bemer.htm

I've posted this Bemer reference in the past about the "biggest computer
goof ever" ... 360 was originally suppose to be an ascii machine.
http://www.bobbemer.com/P-BIT.HTM

also father of ASCII
http://www.bobbemer.com/FATHEROF.HTM
and history index
http://www.bobbemer.com/HISTORY.HTM

and cics was originally developed at customer.
http://web.archive.org/web/20050409124902/www.yelavich.com/cicshist.htm

in 69 CICS changing to program product ... and the univ I was at got
selected to be beta test site ... and I got tasked with support &
debugging ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#cics

and DB2 started out as system/r on vm370 370/145
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr

and then tech transfer to endicott for SQL/DS. Then
one of the people in this referenced meeting
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

claimed to have done the technology transfer from
endicott back to STL for DB2. 

this account has how the corporation was all wrapped up
in eagle ... research was able to do the tech transfer to
endicott and get it out as sql/ds ... "under the radar"
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-SQL_DS.html
then when eagle imploded ... there was request about how fast could
there be a MVS port.
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-DB2.html

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