Thanks Lizette and Jake . We are looking into performance reports now ..

On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jake anderson <[email protected]>wrote:

> I agree with lizette. I/O reports should tell you.
> On 20 Apr 2014 10:18, "Lizette Koehler" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Do you have any automation tools like OPS/MVS or Tivoli or other?
> >
> > Perhaps you need a timer in the VARY command step to delay the time the
> > next step runs.
> >
> > The vary may not be slow, but the IO Subsystem to the array may not be
> > coming back quickly enough.  Have you run performance reports on the
> > storage array itself when the commands are running?
> >
> > Lizette
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> > > Behalf Of baby eklavya
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 9:28 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: Slow vary commands processing
> > >
> > > That's the problem with us now ...we don't see significant difference
> > from the logs .
> > >
> > > When one device is varied offline , it gets processed instantly
> > >
> > > When vary is issued against a set of devices (may be 10 )  , we see a
> > delay of 15 to
> > > 20 seconds . But our storage person keeps complaining that vary
> commands
> > are
> > > processed slow . I believe , it is because there are so many backup
> jobs
> > failing from
> > > last few months compared to earlier .
> > >
> > > For eg , we had an abend yesterday where STEP 1 issues a vary command
> > against
> > > a set of volumes . And STEP 2 runs an ICKDSF to init the volume .
> > > It fails saying the volume is not offline .
> > >
> > > Looking at CMDS display , we don't see anything queued up for long .
> > >
> > > Nothing was changed in the system recently .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Lizette Koehler
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > >
> > > > How did you determine they are slow.
> > > >
> > > > How long do you think they should take?
> > > > How long would it normally take?
> > > > How long does it now take?
> > > > How many devices are in the vary command at one time?
> > > >
> > > > What analysis have you done to determine "slow"
> > > >
> > > > What timings do you get when you vary one device compared to 10
> > > > compared to 100?
> > > >
> > > > Do you see any error messages indicating the commands are not
> > processing?
> > > >
> > > > Have you issued the CMDS command to see what is going on at the same
> > > > time as the slow commands?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lizette
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of baby eklavya
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:54 PM
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Slow vary commands processing
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings ,
> > > > >
> > > > > In our shop , we see that vary commands are processed slow most of
> > > > > the
> > > > time . We
> > > > > have not applied any maintenance recently and there are no messages
> > > > > or
> > > > dumps
> > > > > which actually tell us why this happen . Can someone share some
> > > > possibilities in
> > > > > general when this can happen ?
> > > > >
> > > > > We are running z/os 1.11 on a Z196 processor with DS8800 boxes .
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > baby
> > > > >
> >
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