I will rephrase my question.  When did any vendor last ship a 3390 DASD to 
anyone with non-RAID SLEDs inside for use on any kind of operating system which 
did not have direct support for FBA in its customer-usable access method 
repertoire?  There must have been some kind of announcement made which is still 
findable online.  IBM continued to manufacture and sell things after this date 
that they called 3390s but which were implemented internally with RAID, I 
believe. 

Bill Fairchild 

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From: "Anne & Lynn Wheeler" <l...@garlic.com> 
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Subject: Re: real vs. emulated CKD 

dasdbi...@comcast.net (DASDBILL2) writes: 
> I know it has been "decades" since IBM manufactured its last real CKD 
> controller, but what was the exact date when the last new one was 
> shipped? 

re: 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#82 Costs of core 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#83 Costs of core 

depends on how you differentiate CKD and FBA ... 3380 was already moving 
to fixed-block cells (track space calculations have 3380 rounding up to 
cell size). part of this is driven by increasingly sophisticated error 
correcting code technology being on fixed size blocks 
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#75 non-IBM: SONY new tape storage - 185 
Terabytes on a tape. 

fba-512 has been standard since the 70s with 3310s & 3370s ... but 
currently is move to fba-4096 ... as part of error correcting 
technology. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_sector 

the above has IBM sizes in 512, 1024, 2048, & 4096 in the 70s.  The 
enhanced CMS filesystem introduced formating block size option ... but 
on 3310s & 3370s ... used multiples of 512byte physical blocks. 

however, industry standard transition to 4096 starting in 2007 
continuing through Jan2011. IBM article on subject: 
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-4kb-sector-disks/ 

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