>time-zone UTC offsets are not in general integers.  The Australian Cocos 
>Islands Time Zone is UTC+6.30. 
  
Most places are an integral number of hours + or - from Greenwhich.   There are 
a few that are a half hour off from an integral number of hours difference.  
And at last one whole country, Nepal, is 4 hours 45 minutes greater than 
Greenwich.  Here is a list of most large cities: 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ 
  
Here is a view of the whole world's time zones in one complex picture: 
http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/ 
  
Bill Fairchild, Senior Software Engineer 
ASG Software Services 
Naples, FL 

----- Original Message -----

From: "John Gilmore" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:53:58 AM 
Subject: Re: Local Time conversion to/from UTC Time 

Date-time conversions are messy.  Attempts to treat them expose 
ambiguities that are otherwise mostly ignored. 

Implicit in Chuck's original post is that he also has a date 
available.  He needs a 4tuple: 

o date, 

o time, 

o location, specified as a latitude-longitude pair, and 

o identity, UTC|xDT 

The terminology "Daylight Saving[s]" time has disappeared from 
official use.  It is <zone> Daylight Time, as in 'Eastern Daylight 
Time' in the United States, now.  Elsewhere it may be "Summer Time", 
"Official Time", etc., etc.  Note also that in the Southern 
Hemisphere, e.g.,  in Australia, summer and winter are reversed, with 
a small but important consequence for the calculation of correction 
factors. 

In general, date and time values are inseparable.  The international 
date line exists and cannot be wished away.  You will need do your 
conversions on a date-time value, not on a time value alone. 

Note also, and continuing with an Australian example, that 
three-character time-zone names are not unique.  There is an 
Australian Eastern Standard Time, AEST, as well as a United Statesian 
Eastern Standards Time, UEST.  Again, time-zone UTC offsets are not in 
general integers.  The Australian Cocos Islands Time Zone is UTC+6.30. 

Skip Robinson is clearly right.  A table-driven solution is ineluctable. 

You can get help, crucial help, from the IANA database, but in my 
experience it is never usable directly.  You will need to extract the 
relevant data it contains, putting them into your own tables, which 
you will need to regenerate in at least quasi-automated fashion every 
time the IANA database is updated. 

It is common to grossly underestimate the complexity of date-time 
calculations, probably because they are usually botched without 
recognizing that they are being botched. 

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA 

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