[email protected] (Webster, Chris) writes:
> I remember using full screen editors named EDGAR and FUSE prior to
> XEDIT.  Don't remember which came first or their official IBM status.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#99 TSO Test does not support 65-bit 
debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#103 TSO Test does not support 65-bit 
debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#105 TSO Test does not support 65-bit 
debugging?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#106 TSO Test does not support 65-bit 
debugging?

There was EDGAR product ... then where were several internal editors
with wide distribution. I was trying to get Endicott to release RED when
they hit on XEDIT. At the time, RED was significantly faster, more
function and much more mature than XEDIT ... but there was some amount
of NIH. At one point Endicott said it was the RED authors fault that RED
was significantly better than XEDIT ... and therefor it should be the
RED author's responsibility to fix XEDIT. old email apologizing to the
RED author for how bolixed up it became.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800311
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800312
some earlier comparison
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email790606
another RED/XEDIT email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#email810531

this mentions including RED3.4 & XEDIT in my internal distribution of a
vm370 release 6 (one of my hobbies was doing distribution and support of
enhanced, production operating systems for internal datacenters)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800429
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#email800501

from melinda's history

Edgar (the "Display Editing System"), a program product full-screen
editor written by Bob Carroll, also came out in 1976.  Edgar was the
first full-screen editor IBM made available to customers, although
customers had previously written and distributed full-screen editors
themselves, and Lynn Wheeler and Ed Hendricks had both written
full-screen editors for 2250s under CMS-67.

... and

There can be no question that by releasing XEDIT in 1980, IBM gave CMS a
new lease on life.  Within no time, programmers and end users were
building large, sophisticated applications based entirely on XEDIT,
stretching it to its limits and doing things with it that IBM had never
envisioned.  That they were able to do that was a tribute to XEDIT's
author, Xavier de Lamberterie.(130) (If you've ever wondered where the
"X" in "XEDIT" came from, now you know--it was Xavier here.)

... snip ...


past posts mentioning RED/XEDIT:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#22 When did full-screen come to VM/370?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#39 20th anniversary of the internet (fwd)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#55 The very first text editor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#26 Assembler question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007g.html#5 Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF 
requirements
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#43 handling the SPAM on this group
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009c.html#54 THE runs in DOS box?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#36 Idiotic programming style edicts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010j.html#11 Information on obscure text editors 
wanted
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#95 VM IS DEAD
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#44 CMS load module format
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#102 Typeface (font) and city identity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#89 Real Programmers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014g.html#23 Three Reasons the Mainframe is in 
Trouble

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