Lizette,

Here are the answers to your questions.  The dsn is huge and is corrently 
expanding on to 12 3390-9 volumes.  The file is expanding rapidly that is why I 
would like to up the primary and secondary allocation from its current space of 
(4350 4350) to about 7000 4350.  The dsn is a OAM file.

I don't have much info about the application it is just that I got a call to 
help fix the programmer's abend.  The dsn has about 459,823,707 records.

We would like to place the dsn on 3390-27 volumes instead of the current 3390-9 
volumes.  This way there won't be much fragmentation as now.  In order to do so 
we will have to modify the SMS SC routine to treat the dsn as VSAM EXTENDED.

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On Wed, 10/22/14, Lizette Koehler <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM EXTENDED
 To: [email protected]
 Received: Wednesday, October 22, 2014, 11:05 AM
 
 VSAM is VSAM.  Whether
 it is an MQ PSID, DB2 Table, Native Vsam.  They
 generally fall under the same rules.
 
 Do you want the dataset to
 expand across volumes? Or stay on one volume?  Do
 you want it to be only 4GB, or can it be a VSAM
 that grows?
 
 Extended means
 go beyond the 4GB limit. Do you have a need to do this? 
 If
 so, then you need to allocate with EA/EF
 for the VSAM.
 
 If you do not
 want to expand beyond 4GB limit then the allocations will
 go
 up to the 4GB limit and fail the extent
 when you try for that extra byte
 over
 4GB.
 
 So, what is your
 requirements.  
 
 If you
 allocate a VSAM dataset with PRI and SEC then it will expand
 up to
 4GB if it is not extended as well as
 possibly going across multiple volumes.
 However, if you only allocate a PRI with SEC =
 0 Then it should stay within
 that one
 allocation.
 
 
 What type of allocation do you want?  I
 understand you want to allocate for
 4GB, but
 why?  You could let the VSAM data set grow naturally as
 needed.  Do
 you have a way to control the
 VSAM file so it will only use this amount of
 data?
 I am thinking that if you
 try to do this, you may have REORGs that will need
 to be done.
 
 Remember, CISIZE, CASIZE, what type of VSAM
 (KSDS, ESDS, RDS, Linear) will
 all allocate
 slightly different.  
 
 Could you explain the application in a little
 more detail.  I think it will
 help in
 providing a better targeted answer.
 
 I am not sure what you mean by OAM datasets. 
 Are you talking about the TCDB
 or other OAM
 Files?  If so, I think they have unique requirements.
 
 Lizette
 
 
 
 > -----Original
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 On
 > Behalf Of willie bunter
 > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:35
 AM
 > To: [email protected]
 > Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT VSAM / VSAM
 EXTENDED
 > 
 > Thanks
 to everybody's input.   However, I still
 don't have a firm answer.
 What is the
 > maximum amount of cylinders should I be
 able to allocate for a VSAM DSN
 without
 > having to make it EXTENDED.
 > 
 > Would this be the
 same critera for OAM dsns as well?
 > 
 >
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