I checked that. There are *no* version-2 PDSEs involved in the problem.

Thanks.

Karl   

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 2:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with PDSEs on 
z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)

You might also try making the PDS/Es a Version 2.

Just to verify it is due to z/OS V2.1.  V2 PDS/Es are available in z/OS V2.1 
with the JCL statement  DSNTYPE=(LIBRARY,2) or selection Version in the ISPF 
3.2 panel.

Might just add to the documentation of this issue.

Lizette


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 6:41 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with 
> PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)
> 
> Did you check the latest PTFs?
> We discovered a PDSE problem 2 weeks ago, for which the PTF was only 
> made available a few weeks before. I don't have the details, but you 
> might find a hit on the abend/rsn codes.
> 
> Kees.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Karl Henn
> Sent: 20 March, 2015 14:03
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Intermittent, not consistently reproducible problems with 
> PDSEs on z/OS V2R1 (incl. infrequent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE ABENDs)
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The description of the following "problem" (if you prefer to call it 
> such) sounds a little unusual, and the sample JCL looks - and is! - 
> trivial. I still kindly ask the world to please read it, and maybe try 
> it out. My primary goal is to make sure that I'm not simply just out of my 
> mind.
> 
> Ever since we're running z/OS V2R1, complaints about alleged problems 
> with PDSEs were forwarded to me, sporadically. The error descriptions 
> were fairly fuzzy, ranging from intermittent S0F4-20 RSN 1C0752EE 
> ABENDs, problems with empty members, as well as incomplete copies of 
> PDSEs with IEBCOPY CC 00. Since none of the problems were really 
> consistently reproducible, I kind of just brushed away the issue for a while.
> 
> The S0F4 ABENDs I could not ignore, though. The complaints didn’t 
> stop, either. So, in order to narrow down a possible problem, I 
> started experimenting - yielding a surprising result.
> 
> Please take a look at the following JCL. Don’t laugh, but as simple as 
> it may look, it *sometimes* does not work.
> 
> 
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //DELETE   EXEC PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(0,NE)
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSIN    DD DATA
>  DELETE <hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A1         NVSAM SCRATCH
>  DELETE <hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A2         NVSAM SCRATCH
>  SET MAXCC=00
> /*
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //ALLOC    EXEC PGM=IEFBR14,COND=(0,NE)
> //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //PDSE#A1  DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A1,
> //            RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1,1)),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
> //            DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
> //PDSE#A2  DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A2,
> //            RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1,1)),UNIT=SYSALLDA,
> //            DSNTYPE=LIBRARY
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //CRE#A1D  EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=(0,NE) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSIN    DD DUMMY
> //SYSUT2   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A1(DUMMY)
> //SYSUT1   DD DSN=NULLFILE,RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,DSORG=PO
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //CRE#A1Z  EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,COND=(0,NE) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSIN    DD DUMMY
> //SYSUT2   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A1(ZZZZ)
> //SYSUT1   DD DATA
> ###ZZZZ###
> /*
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //COPY#A1  EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,COND=(0,NE) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
> //SYSUT1   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A1
> //SYSUT2   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=<hlq>.TEST.PDSE#A2
> //SYSIN    DD DUMMY
> //*------------------------------------------------------------------*
> //
> 
> All steps usually end with CC 00. So far, so good. Everything as expected.
> 
> However, if you BROWSE member ZZZZ in the two data sets involved, the 
> result is surprising, to say the least.
> 
> BROWSE    SYSADM.TEST.PDSE#A1(ZZZZ)
> Command ===>
> ********************************
> --------------------------------
> ###ZZZZ###
> 777EEEE7774444444444444444444444
> BBB9999BBB0000000000000000000000
> --------------------------------
> 
> 
> BROWSE    SYSADM.TEST.PDSE#A2(ZZZZ)
> Command ===>
> ********************************
> --------------------------------
> 
> 44444444444444444444444444444444
> 00000000000000000000000000000000
> --------------------------------
> 
> Even though IEBCOPY (in step COPY#A1) ended with CC 00, and target 
> member ZZZZ is *empty*. Even more intriguing: This *only* happens if 
> an empty member (DUMMY in my example) already exists in the source 
> PDSE, otherwise everything is fine and good.
> 
> In my view, there are three possibilities.
> 
> (1) I'm crazy.
> 
> (2) In my 28 year as a Mainframe Systems Programmer, I somehow managed 
> to miss a crucial piece of information.
> 
> (3) There is a bad bug somewhere.
> 
> Once I can rule out No. 1 and No. 2, I might turn to IBM.
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance, everybody!
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Karl
> 

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