I forgot to ask
What level of the HMC are you running?
Are you doing this locally or remote for the IPL?

Lizette


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 4:30 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Subsys not down while Shutdown
> 
> I am not sure if you got your issue resolved, but here are some post questions
> 
> 1) do you do your shutdown manually or with automation?
>       a) has your shop documented how to shut-down all tasks manually?
>       b) does your shop use a Proc to stop all tasks or a Clist or an 
> automation
> tool (OPS/MVS, Tivoli, etc)
> 2) are you a Parallel sysplex, sysplex or monoplex?
> 3) Did you do a vary offline to take it out of a plex?
> 4) On your HMC did you chose the correct load or load/store function?
> 5) how often do you do the IPLs?
> 
> If you are still waiting to IPL
> 1) What state is your IPL process in?  Do you still have the message on the 
> HMC?
> 2) did you go to the USERS and TASKS section of the HMC as the message 
> suggests?
> What was there?
> 3) have you tried to terminate the load and try again?
> 
> 
> If you have an urgent issue, calling the vendor is sometimes faster than 
> waiting on
> the list.
> 
> Lizette
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of zos reader
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 12:40 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Subsys not down while Shutdown
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > i am trying to bring our system and i brought all the subsystems and
> > also came out of syslex and few of subsystems didn't come down.
> >
> >      SYSLOG   STC01579 +MASTER+   15 EXECUTION          SYS9  SYS9
> >
> >       TSS9     STC01588 +TSS9      15 EXECUTION          SYS9  SYS9
> >
> >       PTXMANZ  STC01660 PTXMANZ    15 EXECUTION          SYS9  SYS9
> >
> >       CA7      STC03185 CA7        15 EXECUTION          SYS9  SYS9
> >
> >
> > Also the system came to wait state.
> >
> > Wen i tried to IPL and i cant and below is the message from HMC.
> >
> >
> > P002DAA7:LPAR4
> >
> >
> >
> >  Object is busy for task Load by user pzkz1d
> > (pdw01ctxap026[168.94.125.26]) and
> >
> > the task cannot handle busy objects. See 'Users and Tasks' for more
> > details or to try to terminate the Load task.
> >
> >
> > Please assist me how to bring ths tasks down and perform the IPL.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Samat

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