Cannaerts, Jan wrote: >>The problem is there is a lot of non-mainframe talents willing to work for >>peanuts. Of course there is no single (common) definition of "peanuts" or >>"talent". >New mainframe talent requires training before they can be somewhat productive >in a decently set up shop[1]. This too costs money. So you work for peanuts >because you can't be productive (yet), and because you cost your company a lot >of money in training.
Agreed. Training companies are dying out like flies because of costs and companies are to cheap. Catch 22 - You want / need training, but companies need solid proven experience. Ok, above is a generalisation, but you get the general picture. You're lucky if you can get a good mentor/supervisor. And there are no, AFAIK, self paced training software like those Phoenix system [1] where I learned a lot of things. You could try out commands during the training. Of course those commands are not executed 'in the wild', but analysed to guide the trainee. >Companies are used to this not so new development in IT, that you can learn to >use the newest fad in under a week, which will then be irrelevant 5 years >later. If you can stay at the front and teach yourself all those fads, headhunters will love you. >In a non-perfectly set up shop you can work on improving very basic things >that don't require deep understanding of the systems you're working on. So you >can be productive earlier. I believe this is the best place for new people to >learn. Agreed. This is another reason why there is a thing called 'sandbox'. ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht [1] - I was also an administrator of that system in those years. Lots of people got useful training and could be productive in a month or so. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
