Hi folks

I'm bringing up an old Multiprise 3000 - 7060-30. For fun and
education rather than production needless to say!

All is mostly well so far but I'm having a problem configuring the
internal DASD. There are 11 18GB disks in there and 7 SSA jumpers. The
loop and plugging rules appear to be correct and that side of things
seems fine; I've read the manuals there carefully!

I've found I have one dud disk - if I run ISSACFG from the boot
floppies it formats test and certifies just fine - but for some reason
the internal disk subsytem configurator tool on the SE red-boxes it.

I have one spare disk - which turns out to be completely dead.

So I don't have enough working disks & jumpers to populate both groups
of internal DASD with the required 16 valid devices. And if there's
just one invalid or faulty device present the internal disk subsytem
configurator tool refuses to create a logical storage subsystem.

No problem I think; I don't have enough working bits for both groups
so I'll only use the disks in group 0 - the leftmost two columns of
DASD. I remove all the disks and jumpers from group 1 and the SSA
adaptor from group 1 - and replug the SSA cables appropriately. I
check it out with diskette boot ISSACFG; all is well; I have a
functioning string of 8 good disks.

Then I bring up the SE; I perform a POR; I start the internal disk
subsytem configurator tool. It shows all 8 drives in group 0 working
(blue squares) and all group 1 blank (white squares) - just as I
expected. Unexpectedly it *still* won't create an LSS; the message
about a faulty disk being present is gone but instead I get "The HDDs
are not plugged in the order as required for this frame. The LSS
configuration data could not be built or upgraded. Message ID: 0x8104"

Any suggestions? I don't see how the plugging order *could* be any
different; all slots in group 0 are plugged with working valid drives.
No jumpers are used.

Specific questions:

1. Is what I'm trying to do valid? i.e. run the machine with only 8
internal disks installed in group 0 - and have all the group 1 disks
and SSA adapter removed and their spaces covered with blanking plates?
The manual implies this should be possible. Or does *every* slot have
to populated with a working disk or jumper and both SSA adapters
installed - even if the SSA *loop* is only configured to use the group
0 adapter and disks? Refer to
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg202df2e6254dd7e3c852568b000761b0f&aid=1
- pages 7-2 to 7-7. I'm trying to implement figure 7-1 since I don't
have enough working devices for figure 7-2 which was the original
configuration.

2. Or am I doing it wrong? Should the order of actions be: Bring up
the SE *then* use ISSACFG to create a RAID 5 array with hot spare
using the 8 drives BEFORE performing a POR (turning control of the
devices over to the PCI-STI bridge) THEN use the internal disk
subsytem configurator tool to create an LSS from an already-created
array?

3. Does anyone have any spare 7060 18GB SSA drives or jumpers lying in
some dark closet?! I'm going to need some sooner or later anyway!

4. Does anyone have a spare 7060 DAT tape drive lying around? Both of
mine appear to be flaky... and I'm going to need that sooner or later
too!

5. If I abandon internal DASD completely for now and decide to use
only emulated DASD on the SE array (which works perfectly) can I
replace the 9GB SE array disks with 18GB units? I know I would have to
reformat them to 512 byte blocks first and reinstall the SE from CDROM
- but would it work? I could create a much bigger G: partition  for a
useful amount of emulated DASD that way.

6. I've heard tell of people who decided to throw away the SE array
completely and instead boot the SE from an IDE disk connected to the
IDE port on the SE SBC. Obviously that would require tweaking of the
drivers etc. on the SE installation. Any comments or links to
documentation on what exactly people did to make that work if the
story is true?


Thanks

Mike

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Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame.
For one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see.'

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