Hi

If the those file's Management class has the "Auto backup" set to YES but
the storage Group has the "Auto Backup" set to NO you will find an error in
your HSM log saying the dataset cannot be removed because is in need of a
backup.
Those messages are in the HSM  MIGLOG in the records headed ACTION=EXPIRED
or SPCMGMT, (RC=53).


Regards,

Gonzalo Cengotita



*Gonzalo Cengotita*

2016-01-14 21:18 GMT+01:00 Gibney, David Allen,Jr <[email protected]>:

> Also, what are the actual dataset attributes? DFHSM doesn't do some
> "incomplete" datasets. Are they backed up. DFHSM often doesn't delete if
> there is not a back-up.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of willie bunter
> > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:53 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: DFHSM/SMS QUESTION - SPACE MANAGEMENT
> >
> > Lizette,
> >
> > Thanks for the info.  For this dsn in particular there is no migration
> it is to be
> > expired/deleted after 1 day of non-usage.
> >
> > You have touched on the point of space management algorithms for
> > migration.  I assume that this would also pertain to the deletion of
> files as
> > well. Right?
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Thu, 1/14/16, Lizette Koehler <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >  Subject: Re: DFHSM/SMS QUESTION -  SPACE MANAGEMENT
> >  To: [email protected]
> >  Received: Thursday, January 14, 2016, 12:45 PM
> >
> >  So depending on the
> >  version of z/OS - look at On Demand Migration (v2.1 and  above), this
> might
> > help more
> >
> >  Second, correct, files are only moved if DFHSM  feels the volume needs
> to
> > have the space back, however, you  could  have a migration policy in the
> > management class that  says - if this is still on DASD after 1 month,
> then
> > migrate  the file.
> >
> >  It depends on
> >  what your requirements are.  You can just let files migrate  as HSM
> sees fit
> > based on its algorithms for space  management, or you can setup a
> > management class that says it  gets migrated if unused in XX days.
> >
> >  Many choices.
> >
> >  Lizette
> >
> >  >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  > From: IBM
> >  Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]  On  >
> > Behalf Of willie bunter  > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:23  AM  >
> To:
> > [email protected]  > Subject: DFHSM/SMS QUESTION - SPACE
> > MANAGEMENT  >  > Good  Day To All,  >  > I  need to confirm if I my
> > understanding about SMS & SPACE  management is  > correct.
> >  > We have noticed that there are several  dsns which have been on dasd
> for
> > over  >
> >  10 months.  The volumes and dsns are all SMS managed and  DFHSM
> > performs the  > necessary migration  and deletion.  I checked the
> > MANAGEMENT class and the  dsns  > are to be deleted after 1 day
> non-usage
> > >  > Expire  after Days Non-usage  . : 1  > Expire  after Date/Days . .
> . .      : 1
> > >  Retention Limit  . . . . . . .           :
> >  0
> >  >
> >  > Below are the
> >  attributes of the Storage Group:
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Allocation/migration
> >  Threshold :            High
> >  85   (1-100)  Low . . 1
> >  >
> >  (0-99)
> >  > Alloc/Migr Threshold
> >  Track-Managed:  High    85   (1-100)    Low  . . 1   (0-  > 99)  >
> Guaranteed
> > Backup Frequency  . . . . .
> >  .                  (1 to 9999 or
> >  > NOLIMIT)
> >  >
> >  BreakPointValue  . . . . . . . . . . . .
> >                   (0-65520
> >  > or blank)
> >  > Processing
> >  Priority  . . . . . . . . . . 50
> >     (1-100)
> >  >
> >  > I think that the dsns are not deleted  because SMS did not select
> some of
> > these  > volumes have not met the criteria of the  Low threshold of 1.  I
> > remember  >  reading somewhere (on this board the following):
> >  >
> >  > For primary space
> >  management, HSM only looks at the low threshold. If the  > volume
> exceeds
> > the low threshold, then we  will process any data sets that are  >
> eligible for
> > migration on that volume.
> >  >
> >
> >  > Could someone confirm if I am
> >  correct?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  Thanks.
> >
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