I stand corrected.  There is a backup done for this storage group.

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On Fri, 1/15/16, Gonzalo Cengotita <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM/SMS QUESTION - SPACE MANAGEMENT
 To: [email protected]
 Received: Friday, January 15, 2016, 3:31 AM
 
 Hi
 
 If the those file's Management class has
 the "Auto backup" set to YES but
 the storage Group has the "Auto
 Backup" set to NO you will find an error in
 your HSM log saying the dataset cannot be
 removed because is in need of a
 backup.
 Those messages are in the HSM  MIGLOG in the
 records headed ACTION=EXPIRED
 or SPCMGMT,
 (RC=53).
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Gonzalo Cengotita
 
 
 
 *Gonzalo
 Cengotita*
 
 2016-01-14 21:18
 GMT+01:00 Gibney, David Allen,Jr <[email protected]>:
 
 > Also, what are the actual
 dataset attributes? DFHSM doesn't do some
 > "incomplete" datasets. Are they
 backed up. DFHSM often doesn't delete if
 > there is not a back-up.
 >
 > > -----Original
 Message-----
 > > From: IBM Mainframe
 Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
 > > On Behalf Of willie bunter
 > > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:53
 AM
 > > To: [email protected]
 > > Subject: Re: DFHSM/SMS QUESTION -
 SPACE MANAGEMENT
 > >
 > > Lizette,
 > >
 > > Thanks for the info.  For this dsn
 in particular there is no migration
 > it
 is to be
 > > expired/deleted after 1
 day of non-usage.
 > >
 > > You have touched on the point of
 space management algorithms for
 > >
 migration.  I assume that this would also pertain to the
 deletion of
 > files as
 > > well. Right?
 >
 >
 > >
 --------------------------------------------
 > > On Thu, 1/14/16, Lizette Koehler
 <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 > >
 > > 
 Subject: Re: DFHSM/SMS QUESTION -  SPACE MANAGEMENT
 > >  To: [email protected]
 > >  Received: Thursday, January 14,
 2016, 12:45 PM
 > >
 > >  So depending on the
 > >  version of z/OS - look at On Demand
 Migration (v2.1 and  above), this
 >
 might
 > > help more
 > >
 > >  Second,
 correct, files are only moved if DFHSM  feels the volume
 needs
 > to
 > > have
 the space back, however, you  could  have a migration
 policy in the
 > > management class
 that  says - if this is still on DASD after 1 month,
 > then
 > > migrate 
 the file.
 > >
 >
 >  It depends on
 > >  what your
 requirements are.  You can just let files migrate  as
 HSM
 > sees fit
 > >
 based on its algorithms for space  management, or you can
 setup a
 > > management class that says
 it  gets migrated if unused in XX days.
 > >
 > >  Many
 choices.
 > >
 >
 >  Lizette
 > >
 > >  >
 > > 
 -----Original Message-----
 > >  >
 From: IBM
 > >  Mainframe Discussion
 List [mailto:[email protected]
 On  >
 > > Behalf Of willie
 bunter  > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:23  AM 
 >
 > To:
 > > [email protected] 
 > Subject: DFHSM/SMS QUESTION - SPACE
 > > MANAGEMENT  >  > Good  Day
 To All,  >  > I  need to confirm if I my
 > > understanding about SMS & SPACE 
 management is  > correct.
 > > 
 > We have noticed that there are several  dsns which
 have been on dasd
 > for
 > > over  >
 >
 >  10 months.  The volumes and dsns are all SMS managed
 and  DFHSM
 > > performs the  >
 necessary migration  and deletion.  I checked the
 > > MANAGEMENT class and the  dsns 
 > are to be deleted after 1 day
 >
 non-usage
 > > >  > Expire 
 after Days Non-usage  . : 1  > Expire  after Date/Days
 . .
 > . .      : 1
 > > >  Retention Limit  . . . . . .
 .           :
 > > 
 0
 > >  >
 >
 >  > Below are the
 > > 
 attributes of the Storage Group:
 > > 
 >
 > >  >
 >
 >  > Allocation/migration
 > > 
 Threshold :            High
 >
 >  85   (1-100)  Low . . 1
 > >  >
 > > 
 (0-99)
 > >  > Alloc/Migr
 Threshold
 > >  Track-Managed: 
 High    85   (1-100)    Low  . .
 1   (0-  > 99)  >
 >
 Guaranteed
 > > Backup Frequency  . .
 . . .
 > >  .               
   (1 to 9999 or
 > >  >
 NOLIMIT)
 > >  >
 > >  BreakPointValue  . . . . . . . . .
 . . .
 > >               
    (0-65520
 > >  > or
 blank)
 > >  > Processing
 > >  Priority  . . . . . . . . . .
 50
 > >     (1-100)
 > >  >
 > > 
 > I think that the dsns are not deleted  because SMS did
 not select
 > some of
 >
 > these  > volumes have not met the criteria of the 
 Low threshold of 1.  I
 > > remember 
 >  reading somewhere (on this board the following):
 > >  >
 > > 
 > For primary space
 > > 
 management, HSM only looks at the low threshold. If the 
 > volume
 > exceeds
 > > the low threshold, then we  will
 process any data sets that are  >
 >
 eligible for
 > > migration on that
 volume.
 > >  >
 > >
 > >  >
 Could someone confirm if I am
 > > 
 correct?
 > >  >
 > >  >
 > > 
 Thanks.
 > >
 >
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