Well, gee guys, you can't always have it both ways. "I want feature X but I 
don't want to be forced into prerequisite Y." Sometimes it does not work that 
way.

Sometimes there is a "hard" reason -- feature X is truly built on top of Y -- 
and sometimes developers just do things a certain way. "I had to re-write Z to 
be able to implement X, and my new Z takes advantage of the facilities 
available with Y."

And Yes, I am sure IBM wrestles internally with the tradeoffs: "we want 
customers to upgrade to a z13, but we don't want to totally alienate those who 
do not."

Charles

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Bill Woodger
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: COBOL v5

On Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:19:25 UTC, Bernd Oppolzer  wrote:
> In the PL/1 mailing list, Peter Elderon (IBM) explicitly stated that 
> there are no plans to force the PL/1 users to PDSEs, so IMO this is 
> not true for PL/1, at least.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Bernd
> 

Perusing the latest PL/I Programming Guide, there are many, many instances 
where if you want to use a particular thing, you need to use a PDSE for the 
executable output, because it is a Program Object.

You're not "forced" to use a PDSE in exactly the way you're not forced to use 
any feature which requires a Program Object.

That is equally true with COBOL. Use V4.2 or earlier.

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