Is it Friday yet?  Well, just a bit early.

I remember those ISAM days all too well.  Our solution to large ISAM insert 
jobs was "update in reverse", i.e., sort the input in descending ISAM key order 
and process from high to low.  That was many times faster than inserting in 
ascending key order due to the way ISAM updated its index records.

I also remember hating VSAM files because they had to be cataloged in "VSAM 
Catalogs".  Imagine that nonsense, do they think I don't already know where I 
put my files?  Why, they are right there on my dedicated removable 3330-II 
packs!  Everyone knows that!  Besides, what's wrong with the OS catalog we 
already have?  Now I have to have a separate "VSAM" catalog too?  Harrumph!  
And what is this idiot IDCAMS utility I have to use now?  Isn't JCL good enough 
for them either?  Double Harrumph!

But anyway Radoslaw is right, it seems there are some who would prefer no 
change at all.  I tend to be in the "modern" group myself.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: COBOL v5

I'm not sure about the ISAM part.  I HATED ISAM.  If you enjoy watching your 
jobs grind away seemingly forever....then you liked ISAM.  I've always loved 
VSAM....maybe because I hated ISAM so much.

Ever have ISAM job that did an Update in Place (not file in/ file out)....ugghh 
 !!!!!

Thanks,
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of R.S.
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: COBOL v5

W dniu 2016-01-28 o 19:44, Charles Mills pisze:
> I cannot speak for IBM, but IMHO they may have felt that way at one 
> time, but EC 5.2 is clearly an investment on IBM's part and a 
> commitment to the future of COBOL.
>
> You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. "Add new features" and 
> "make it go into an old-fashioned load module" are potentially 
> inconsistent requirements.
>
Well, IMHO there are two kinds of mainframe customers:

a) Legacy
We don't want PDSE, We don't want binder. We don't want SMS. We still want VSAM 
passwords. We don't want VSAM. ISAM was good. We don't want FICON. We want 
ESCON ...for BUS&Tag connectivity. We want 3274...

b) modern
We want COBOLE AMODE64. We want HFS/ZFS >4GB. We want DSORG=PO to be 
multi-volume. We want JCL modifications. Etc.

The problem is satisfying b) means troubles for a) group.


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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland






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