You no longer need an ICKDSF IPL tape with the current DFDSS.  Bob

Robert Haimowitz
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From:   Clifford McNeill <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]
Date:   02/05/2016 02:43 PM
Subject:        Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



Also don't forget the stand alone ICKDSF IPL tape to init the disk drives 
before a stand alone DFDSS IPL to restore the tapes.
    Cliff McNeill

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf 
of Skip Robinson <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 1:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??

One more point on standalone restore. IPLing from a tape volume basically 
assumes that the tape is non-labelled. That is, the first record read is 
expected to be a bootstrap record. If a tape has labels, the first load 
will fail, but the tape will be positioned at the next block. So IPL again 
(and maybe again) until the bootstrap record is read.

All of this hinges on being able to use a vanilla uninitialized tape 
system. I have no idea whether a drive in an IBM virtual tape system can 
function without support software. I suspect that it will work if the 
IOCDS includes the drive and chpid connections. That's what you'll need to 
test in your current environment.

.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
[email protected]


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Steve Finch
> Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 10:57 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??
>
> We do the manual cartridge move from a slot to a tape drive on a regular
> basis.  Never tried the IPL part
>
> Steve Finch
> Recovery Point Systems
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 3:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stand-Alone DSS RESTORE with 3584 Library - How??
>
> On 2/4/2016 11:58 PM, Crispin Hugo wrote:
> > I have not tried this personally but IBM System Storage TS3500 Tape 
Library
> GUI under section  Cartridges allows one to select cartridge in Library 
and
> move it to a specific slot,  the slot can be any of the cartridge drives 
in the
> Library. I assume then that one could IPL from the cartridge drive.
>
> An interesting approach! I will research to see if feasible...
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Edward E Jaffe
> Phoenix Software International, Inc
> 831 Parkview Drive North
> El Segundo, CA 90245
> http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

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