I've remembered a little more about session hang and MTU size.  1500 is 
supposed to work everywhere, however there are some things in the past that 
just didn't work with 1500, and the symptom was that things just quietly hung.  
Some times it would even paint part of the screen and hang.  Changing the 
client side MTU to something smaller, maybe 1400, would "fix it".   It probably 
didn't fix it, it just masked whatever the bug was elsewhere.  

Isn't token ring MTU something less than 1500?  

A few years ago, a Linux sysadmin was using dyndns to get back to his home 
system and it would hang in a similar manner.  I had him set his MTU down a 
little and it started working.  

I think the problem ONLY happens when a message at MTU 1500 doesn't need 
fragmented, but at the lower MTU DOES need fragmented. 

Len Rugen

University of Missouri
Division of Information Technology
Systems & Operations - Metrics & Automation Team

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of 
Elardus Engelbrecht [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: zSECURE 32 x 80 Hang

George Henke wrote:

>Whenever we Dial into our z/OS VM with PCOMM and 32X80 screen size it hangs at 
>the very end of the ISPF dialog and after displaying the final ISPF dialog 
>screen.

What do you mean by 'hang'? Are your sessions standing still, waiting for 
something requiring a cancel of your session? Is your Keyboard locked (Host 
keyboard lock status)? Is this only you [1] or are others also affected?

What is the name (PANELID) of those dialog screens? Perhaps those panels and or 
the driving dialogs were coded incorrectly? Or should I ask, what were you 
actually doing from one panel to the other?

I see ZSECURE in Subject. Are you referring to IBM's security tool product? If 
so, open a PMR. If IBM can recreate your problem this should be very 
interesting.


>24 X 80 is ok.

>Coming through PCOMM on CITRIX is ok.
>Coming through a NATed address in PCOMM is also ok.

With what screen size for above?

Now you're talking about NATed address, check your firewall settings on your 
workstation and on all parts of your network.


>It only fails when we Dial In with 32 X 80.

If you're in office, can you use 32x80? I always use 32x80 from home and from 
office. I hate 24*80, but then it is just me... ;-)


>Any ideas?

Probably a bad logmode in VTAM / TCP/IP? Do you use Extended Attribute?

What about larger sizes? Can you use them?

Len Rugen said something about MTU. Hmmm, very interesting.

Perhaps you can review your PCOMM settings? Oh, with what version of PCOMM and 
z/VM are you working?

Can you extract a session trace from your PCOMM session and see if some invalid 
characters were transmitted?

Sorry for asking so many bothersome questions, but I have done similar, but 
weird session+communication debugging ages ago...

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

[1] - Check your profile dataset and your ISPF screen attributes and settings.

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