On 16/05/2016 09:05 PM, John Eells wrote:
We understand the NIST recommendation to move off SHA-1 for security-related purposes. However, our use of SHA-1 in this context has nothing to do with security, and as far as I know it was never intended to provide any. We are using SHA-1 just to be reasonably sure that what we send over the wire is what you get from a data integrity standpoint. (I wrote the ServerPac part of the design for Internet delivery.)

As I hope everyone knows, we are shortly disallowing FTP connections at our servers. The use of FTPS or HTTPS will be required to download z/OS platform products and PTFs. Secure delivery using HTTPS or FTPS uses different algorithms for securing the link, and happens to pass through a package that has a SHA-1 hash of its content.

So...with all that in mind...what is the actual requirement here? Does anyone think the probability of an undetected data integrity exposure is too high because we're using SHA-1? Are auditors reflexively telling you that any use of SHA-1 for anything at all is not acceptable whether or not it's security related? Something else?

If the FTPS/HTTPS connections use SHA-2 and SHA-1 is only being used to verify the data transferred inside that connection you would hope that auditors would be satisfied.

Presumably they would accept data transferred securely without any additional verification step, so adding SHA-1 shouldn't cause an issue. But in that case the SHA-1 step should also not be visible to the network, firewalls etc. to trigger a warning.

What I would like to see is proper digital signatures for z/OS software packaging - for IBM and other vendors. That solves the problem of ensuring what you send is what you get as well as verifying the origin, whatever transport is used. It might only be a matter of time before auditors start asking for it.

Alternatively, if the FTPS/HTTPS certificates are using SHA-1 I think the momentum of the rest of the world will force change, whether or not it is a significant security exposure.

Andrew Rowley

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