There is no confusion.   When someone mentions a self-signed certificate, 
they are almost always not referrring to root certificates, but to simpleton 
user certificates where Issuer=Subject.  The topic of my post was obviously 
user-generated self-signed certificate vs user-generated non-self-signed
certs.   The ranting about purchased vendor certificates is "off topic".

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On Wed, Jun 22, 2016, at 08:17 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
> Right.
> 
> This is the confusion on what self-signed means. 

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