Same here - We tried the integrated route and then separated again. Management 
philosophies are too different between the stacks.

Jerry Whitteridge
Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage
Albertsons - Safeway Inc.
925 738 9443
Corporate Tieline - 89443

If you feel in control
you just aren't going fast enough.



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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 2:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: IPLing z/OS 2.1+ with no NIP console

Mainframe FICON and switches are separate from network and open systems. By 
design. ;-)

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-302-7535 Office
robin...@sce.com

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tim Hare
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 1:53 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: IPLing z/OS 2.1+ with no NIP console

Do these chpids connect to any fiber switches not controlled by you?  I got 
called very early one morning due to a bunch of channel errors. At the data 
center where I worked, fiber switches were not owned by our group.  The 
brainiacs who did own responsibility for the switch decided to take half of one 
down for some sort of change / maintenance and didn't bother to tell anyone who 
had equipment connected to it.

Needless to say, no mainframer after that wanted to configure tape or DASD 
through those switches.


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