Bob - thanks for your update. TSO XMIT uses IEBCOPY under the covers so it also ignores PDSE Member Generations :-)
(btw. don't you mean IEBUPDTE) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor) Mainframe Systems Programmer Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI&T Service Delivery & Engineering -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Longabaugh, Robert E Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEBCOPY UNLOAD True, CA Disk's PDS2SEQ proc won't export past member generations to the sequential file. Sorry for not being clear about that. Our Backup/Restore/Move support for PDSE V2 with MAXGENS is currently in development. The PDS2SEQ proc was originally developed to help with customizing your CA Disk proclib by writing it to a flat file, so you could do "change all" commands to customize the symbolics in the procs with your local values and then reload the proclib with IEBPTPCH. My earlier reply was for a non-standard use and should be filed under "hints and tricks". We did not plan on updating PDS2SEQ to preserve PDSEV2 generations because its primary purpose was to edit members which are newly delivered by CA that contain the CA defined defaults. Also, yes TSO XMIT will preserve the ISPF stats of the unloaded members, and I have not experimented to see if it will preserve past generations of PDSE V2 members. Bob Longabaugh CA Technologies Storage Management -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IEBCOPY UNLOAD If you are not using a PDSE with GENERATIONS for your MFSGENs, I would look at one of the two 1) TSO XMIT to a pds member - not source viewable, but can be download to PC and XMITMGR can be used to view the file. 2) IEBUPDTE and unload in IEBUPDTE format ./ ADD NAME= control cards are built for you 3) IEBCOPY unloads to a Unload format. You may want to look at the output. 4) SAS UNLOAD a PDS. Creates IEBUPDTE control cards around the members. Lizette -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Pinion Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEBCOPY UNLOAD I have TERSED/UNTERSED PDS/PDSE's. Richard and Vickie Pinion -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEBCOPY UNLOAD Its only a flat file handler Steve -----Original Message----- From: "Richard Pinion" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:27pm To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEBCOPY UNLOAD Don't have to use DF/DSS, TERSE will handle deflating and inflating a PDS/PDSE. I don't know about PDSE member generations though. Richard and Vickie Pinion -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEBCOPY UNLOAD But be careful - CA-Disk does NOT support PDSE Member Generations at this time so if you're using them they will be lost and just like IEBCOPY there is no warning or notice - they are just ignored. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor) Mainframe Systems Programmer Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI&T Service Delivery & Engineering -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Longabaugh, Robert E Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEBCOPY UNLOAD If you have CA Disk you can use the PDS2SEQ proc to unload selected members or all members to a FB80 sequential file. You can optionally imbed IEBPTPCH control statements which will help with reload. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEBCOPY UNLOAD There is another option but you may not like it. You can use ADRDSSU and DUMP the file to disk and then TERSE that file before you FTP it Steve -----Original Message----- From: "Nims,Alva John (Al)" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:03pm To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEBCOPY UNLOAD Doesn't TSO xmit also store ISPF stats, where IEBCOPY offload does not? Here is another question: Does IEBCOPY offload work with PDSe's? I believe xmit does. Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer 3 UFIT University of Florida (352) 273-1298 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEBCOPY UNLOAD TSO Transmit actually can select individual members using the MEMBERS(xxx yyy) option -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor) Mainframe Systems Programmer Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI&T Service Delivery & Engineering -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEBCOPY UNLOAD On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 17:04:28 +0000, Mosley, George wrote: > >I want to unload some PDS members (MFSGEN output, actually) into a single file >that I can keep in a PDS. > >I know that TSO XMIT does just that with the output file being PS/FB/80. > >When I execute IEBCOPY with SYSUT1 pointing to a PDS and SYSUT2 pointing to a >SEQ file (PS/FB/80), the DCB is altered to PS/VS/27936. > >What am I missing? > That's what it does. Sorry about your PDS. I don't think TRANSMIT will select multiple members. But you can IEBCOPY SELECTed members into a temporary PDS, and TRANSMIT that with INDD OUTDSN. 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