Dave - You can't fix mishaps except thru knowledge 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: "Jousma, David" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:08pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IDCAMs DEF AIX authorization



Steve, the user tried to do the build index, but failed on lack of access S913 
as he should have. The user *should* have then deleted his AIX, but didn’t, and 
left it hanging out there. I suspect that the error was unintentional, as our 
application dataset naming conventions here, leave a little to be desired. 
*.TAT.* is test, *.PAT.* is PROD for this particular business application. It 
is my guess, that the user forgot to change the PAT to TAT in the RELATE 
portion of the DEF AIX.

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 11:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IDCAMs DEF AIX authorization

The challenge you will have is that the user in question had authority to build 
the AIX and the PATH but did not do the BUILD. And he could read the PRIMARY 
KSDS.

This is an apples and oranges discussion or a Catch-22. 

-----Original Message-----
From: "Roach, Dennis" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 11:45am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IDCAMs DEF AIX authorization

Since it can, and did, cause a production outage, I voted for it.

I would think that a production outage would rate higher than a medium priority.

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jousma, David
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IDCAMs DEF AIX authorization

I did open an RFE for this, if anyone wishes to vote on it, here is the info.

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Notification generated at: 13 Sep 2016, 10:06 AM Eastern Time (ET)

ID: 94515
Headline: Add SAF check on DEF AIX for RELATE Cluster
Submitted on: 13 Sep 2016, 10:06 AM Eastern Time (ET)
Brand: Servers and Systems Software
Product: z/OS

Link: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=94515

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Dave Jousma
Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President [email protected]
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jousma, David
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IDCAMs DEF AIX authorization

Steve, 

That’s what I am seeing, and IBM just confirmed it. I guess all we can do is 
give the contractor a slap on the hands, and move on.


IBM comments:

Basically, authorization checking is done against the AIX being defined (ALTER 
access to the AIX cluster name as shown in the table above) not the VSAM 
dataset the AIX relates to. Checking against the related VSAM cluster will be 
done when accessed by BLDINDEX. 

So, this is working as intended and documented. If you wish, you could open an 
'enhancement request' to have this behavior changed. 



_________________________________________________________________
Dave Jousma
Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President [email protected]
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IDCAMs DEF AIX authorization

AS I remember, DEF AIX and PATH only operate in the CAT. The BLX would to the 
extract to the AIX 

-----Original Message-----
From: "Jousma, David" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:19am
To: [email protected]
Subject: IDCAMs DEF AIX authorization

All,

I've got a PMR open with IBM asking the question, but thought I'd also pass 
this by the brain trust on this list. We recently had an off-shore contractor 
do a DEFINE AIX for a TEST dataset name, but RELATEd it to a PROD dataset name. 
The process was allowed surprisingly. Contractor only had read access to prod 
dataset. The subsequent BLDINDEX did fail with security violation as expected. 
Nightly processing of that prod file failed however due to the empty AIX. Seems 
like DEF AIX should have been disallowed if the user didn't have the 
appropriate access for what it was related too?

Dave

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1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717

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