I guess I’m not really explaining myself too well here. Firstly, I'm not 
suggesting doing anything illegal or anything that would violate any licensing 
agreements. (Jiminy Crickets, what sort of person do you think I am?)

In z/VM, I there is a command SET CPUID, that will change the CPU identifier 
for a virtual processor. As our DR runs a z/OS guest under z/VM. we have 
considered using this feature in order to not have to change the license keys 
for a number of products. We're already licensed to run at the site by all 
vendors. Some products have no license keys, so no problem. Others, like those 
provided by CA will issue a "nasty-gram" about an incorrect key, but will allow 
us to run, so still no problem. A few however, require a new key. A certain 
amount of "angst" occurs in obtaining and applying those keys. Yes, I suppose 
it is a customer service, documentation, training the staff, issue ... but it 
is an issue. One that I'd like to circumvent if I can. According to all our 
vendors, this does not violate or software agreement(s). Asking the vendors 
where they obtain the CPU identifier in order to validate their keys is proving 
somewhat difficult as in many cases, Level One support honestly doesn't know. I 
know I can just "run this and see what happens" but I was curious if there was 
a way to determine beforehand where or how a product was pulling the CPU 
identifier in order to validate their key. 

Anne R. Adams, CISSP
DTI, Systems Engineering
Sr. Mainframe Services Analyst 
302.298.3196


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Longabaugh, Robert E
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 5:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: CA Technologies LMP key at DR sites (WAS: serial numbers ... real and 
imagine)

Here are selected results from a search on "disaster recovery lmp site:ca.com". 
 These Knowledge Base articles should clarify that recovery can proceed without 
having the correct recovery site LMP key in advance of a disaster drill, or if 
the CPU serial is different than the one that the LMP key was generated for. 

These articles were written by different product groups but apply across the 
board since products call CA Common Services for LMP checking.

What will happen if I don't have valid LMPKEYs for my Disaster Recovery site?
http://www.ca.com/us/support/ca-support-online/product-content/knowledgebase-articles/tec471961.aspx

How can LMP keys be obtained in an emergency?
http://www.ca.com/us/support/ca-support-online/product-content/knowledgebase-articles/tec476815.aspx


Bob Longabaugh
CA Technologies 
Storage Management


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 2:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: serial numbers ... real and imagine


Must of us have too many ethics to violate anything associated with M/F 
Licensing
 
Steve  
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: "Dana Mitchell" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 2:55pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: serial numbers ... real and imagine



Falls under one of my favorite sayings:

Never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. 

Or the British version: cock-up before conspiracy

Dana


>On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Charles Mills <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Speaking as a vendor here -- and at the risk of flames -- it's not 
>> just "bad" customers. With the amount of outsourcing, turnover, 
>> overwork and layoffs of skilled people we were seeing a fair amount of 
>> "inadvertent"
>> license violation before we implemented the serial number check. 
>> Junior sysprogs or managers who just assumed they could install the 
>> software on another LPAR.
>>

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